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Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 84 Marcos Mantula - Sway Bar

2006-01-26 by Garry Diver

Mike,
  I have the door rubbers. Do you need both sides?

Garry


>From: Mike Sullivan <tvrm2001@...>
>Reply-To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
>To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 84 Marcos Mantula - Sway Bar
>Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 05:51:22 -0800 (PST)
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>I have finally driven the car about 50 miles (combined
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>highway at speeds up to 75 and in town with some full
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>throttle straight line acceleration up to 60 mph.
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>Some mild cornering and the body is flat.\ufffd Got to
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>remember that the car only has 10K on the motor and
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>had not been started in over 10 years (consider
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>breaking in the motor again!!!!)\ufffd The car is fitted
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>with the solid axle with the support / frame
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>connections being rather simple (I own a 74 TVR 2500M
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>with a beautifully designed IRS using the TR6
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>differential, 4.1 BTW).\ufffd Right now the car rides
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>rather stiff (more so that the TVR with I do
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>autocross).\ufffd I am considering try to soften up the
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>ride to make it more of a daily driver (the car looks
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>exotic it would be nice if it rode more like today
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>corvettes / vipers , but I am sure that is a wish)
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>BTW how about a source for the door gaskets?\ufffd Also
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>since the car was a calif car the heater control were
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>never completed.\ufffd I have the two slide levers with
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>nothing attached, no blower motor and no temperature
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>control valve.\ufffd It does have a nicely installed A/C
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>system though!\ufffd I am also looking for the trim piece
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>for the fiberglass fender to finish the edges (it
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>looks like the same item that TVR used).\ufffd Other than
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>that the car is ready to be driven.
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>I will say that a my first gas station trip that no
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>less than 4 people came a looked at the car and asked
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>questions and commented about its look, I don't get
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>that much attention in the TVR even as rare as it is
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>it has the look of something one has seen before
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>whereas the Marcos does not.
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>Well enough said....
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>Mike
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>#8153 V8
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>--- Garry Diver <garrydiver@...> wrote:
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> > Mike,
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> >\ufffd\ufffd\ufffd My thoughts on fitting Sway bars.
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> > I have fitted a 1 inch sway bar to the front of my
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> > steel frame 3 liter and
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> > you can see the mounting if you go to my website and
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> > look at the pictures in
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> > the Racing section.
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> > www.marcospartsusa.com
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> > However, before making the decision you really need
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> > to decide the current
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> > handling characteristics and whether they suit your
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> > driving needs. Then you
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> > have to look at the effect of not just a sway bar,
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> > but springs and dampers.
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> > Here is what I did with the rationale( remember mine
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> > is excusively for
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> > racing).
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> > Since the 3 liter motor is very heavy I chose 350lb
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> > front springs and a 1"
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> > bar, to to combat the tendency for the car to roll
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> > over the outside front
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> > tyre on heavy cornering, and help transfer some of
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> > the weight to the inside
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> > front wheel.\ufffd On the rear, I use 160lb springs and
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> > no sway bar to allow some
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> > compliance in the rear and reduce the tendency to
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> > hop on corner exit. The
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> > result is a neutral handling car on fast corners
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> > with a slight oversteer on
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> > slow and medium corners which can be controlled
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> > through the throttle.\ufffd While
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> > I have not yet reached the full potential of the
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> > car, which may mean some
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> > changes, it handles well in the dry and is
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> > predictable in the wet where we
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> > can worry the Porsche 911's.
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> > The Bar is from a Triumph Spitfire, slightly
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> > modified and the mountings are
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> > my own design.
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> > I should say however that Marcos did a pretty good
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> > job on the basic design
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> > and should probably be Ok for the street.
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> > If you decide to go with a bar, let me know and i
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> > can supply one.
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> >
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> > Garry Diver
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> > >From: Mike Sullivan <tvrm2001@...>
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> > >Reply-To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
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> > >To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
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> > >Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 84 Marcos Mantula
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> > - Sway Bar
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> > >Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 09:12:25 -0800 (PST)
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> > >Thanks I will look into this, btw the rear is a
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> > solid
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> > >
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> > >axle.
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> > >
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> > >--- Christian Fey <Baufi-Fey@...> wrote:
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> > > > Marcos Factory did not fit to the Mantula a
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> > front
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> > >
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> > > > sway bar. Depending
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> > >
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> > > > on the position of the radiator the original TR
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> > > > Vitesse / GT6 can be
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> > >
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> > > > fitted. More effective in my view is to fit one
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> > on
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> > >
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> > > > the rear axle.
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> > > > See also the chat for this theme in the English
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> > > > Marcos Forum.
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> > > > CF Mantula
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> > > > --- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, Mike
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> > Sullivan
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> > > > <tvrm2001@y...>
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> > > > wrote:
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> > > > > Recently purchased an 1986 Mantula #8153 that
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> > has
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> > > > no
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> > > > > front sway bar.\ufffd Any help on getting a source
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> > > > would be
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> > > > > greatly appreciated.
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> > > > > Mike S.
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