It indeed seems to be difficult to get a real grip on what chassis numbers were used in the early days at Marcos, plus it is perfectly possible that some cars got a new identity later on in life. As far as I know, they were still selling some Fastbacks when the 1800 was launched,although the Fastbacks still retained a 30** number. On the other hand there is more than one gullwing with a 30** number (normallt Fastback), rather than the 20** number it should have. In one occasion it was assigned because the orginal paperwork got lost and a fastback was crashed, so the Gullwing lived the rest of its life under the identity of a later car. Maarten Krikken >From: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com >Reply-To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com >To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Digest Number 470 >Date: 2 Jul 2003 10:48:31 -0000 > > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >MarcosManiacs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >There are 6 messages in this issue. > >Topics in this digest: > > 1. Re: Mystery Marcos found > From: "Don Lattimer" <donlattimer@...> > 2. RE: Re: Mystery Marcos found > From: pauldransfield@... > 3. Re: Mystery Marcos found > From: "Christian Fey" <Baufi-Fey@...> > 4. Re: Another found Marcos in museum > From: rharding916@... > 5. Re: Another found Marcos in museum > From: rharding916@... > 6. Gas Tank/Gauge > From: Meggsief@... > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 18:12:05 -0000 > From: "Don Lattimer" <donlattimer@...> >Subject: Re: Mystery Marcos found > >Just received another email from the Marconi Museum and the DeDion >IRS car they have is serial #4043. > >That confuses things a bit. If Jem said that 33 were made with the >DeDion then some in the first 50 or so had to have live rear axles. >Starting serial # would probably be 4001. > >Oh well, I'll keep digging for more info. > >Don Lattimer >#3m5759 > > > > >--- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, "Don Lattimer" ><donlattimer@p...> wrote: > > Just got a reply from the Marconi Museum in Tustin, CA. They have >the > > Marcos that was restored here in Willits, CA back in the late 80's >and sold > > at a Rick Cole auction in 1989. It is an early 1800 with the >DeDion > > independant rear suspension. So the mystery is solved........... > > > > Don Lattimer > > #3m5759 > > Willits, CA USA > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 16:41:36 -0400 > From: pauldransfield@... >Subject: RE: Re: Mystery Marcos found > >Hi Don, > >It's apparent that the serial numbers were not all used consecutively for >similar models. It would be interesting to see an explanation of serial >number designations because they've never made any sense to me. I wonder if >Rory would know. They could have been making gull-wing racers at the same >time as producing the 1800s, and they probably didn't start the 1800s at >4001. Maybe there's an article in one of the older Marcos Owners Club >magazines on the subject. I'll take a look if I get any free time. > >By the way, after a lot of soul searching and hand wringing, I've opted to >go for a set of 17 x 7 RHINO wheels with a 4x4.25 PCD from Centerline >Wheels. They are 19 lb, 2 piece, rotary forged, billet aluminum wheels with >a high polished finish, offered direct through the overstocked wheels >section on their website at $134 apiece plus $70 shipping. There are some >15" and 16" wheels available in that section but very few with a 4" or less >backspace. When I measured the available space, the front limitation for me >is the position of the heater air intake hose but I can fix that by >tighening the retaining strap. My rear limitation is on tire size because >the wheel arches are not centred over the wheels. I imagine that could be >caused by the body being mounted slightly forward on the chassis. With >smaller 185/70R13 tires fitted when my car was restored, they probably >figured it didn't matter enough to adjust it. > >I'm still mulling over tire size, but I'm leaning towards 205/45R17 tires >on >the front and 215/45R17 tires on the rear, if they'll fit. I thought I'd >have plenty of room but when I measured my current temporary 175/80R13s on >the rear, their diameter is around 1/2" less than the original Avons. The >185/70R13s are smaller than spec as well so that would explain why my >speedo >was over-reading so much with those on the rear. When I get everything >figured out and fitted, I'll send in an updated photo. > >Regards, > >Paul Dransfield >3 litre Volvo > >-----Original Message----- >From: Don Lattimer [mailto:donlattimer@...] >Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 2:12 PM >To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Mystery Marcos found > > >Just received another email from the Marconi Museum and the DeDion >IRS car they have is serial #4043. > >That confuses things a bit. If Jem said that 33 were made with the >DeDion then some in the first 50 or so had to have live rear axles. >Starting serial # would probably be 4001. > >Oh well, I'll keep digging for more info. > >Don Lattimer >#3m5759 > > > > >--- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, "Don Lattimer" ><donlattimer@p...> wrote: > > Just got a reply from the Marconi Museum in Tustin, CA. They have >the > > Marcos that was restored here in Willits, CA back in the late 80's >and sold > > at a Rick Cole auction in 1989. It is an early 1800 with the >DeDion > > independant rear suspension. So the mystery is solved........... > > > > Don Lattimer > > #3m5759 > > Willits, CA USA > > > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >MarcosManiacs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 21:35:48 -0000 > From: "Christian Fey" <Baufi-Fey@...> >Subject: Re: Mystery Marcos found > >Hi Don, > >based on Saxby`s "chassis numbers" you will find the chassis No\ufffds: > >4001-4099 1964-1966 99 1800GT (IRS + Live Axled) > >For the "GT" the chassis No\ufffds start with 4001. So the number 4043 >does not fit with 33 build live axle Marcos. > >Perhaps Rory.uk can give information for the No. 4043. > >CF1700GT >CF > > > > >--- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, pauldransfield@i... wrote: > > Hi Don, > > > > It's apparent that the serial numbers were not all used >consecutively for > > similar models. It would be interesting to see an explanation of >serial > > number designations because they've never made any sense to me. I >wonder if > > Rory would know. They could have been making gull-wing racers at >the same > > time as producing the 1800s, and they probably didn't start the >1800s at > > 4001. Maybe there's an article in one of the older Marcos Owners >Club > > magazines on the subject. I'll take a look if I get any free time. > > > > By the way, after a lot of soul searching and hand wringing, I've >opted to > > go for a set of 17 x 7 RHINO wheels with a 4x4.25 PCD from >Centerline > > Wheels. They are 19 lb, 2 piece, rotary forged, billet aluminum >wheels with > > a high polished finish, offered direct through the overstocked >wheels > > section on their website at $134 apiece plus $70 shipping. There >are some > > 15" and 16" wheels available in that section but very few with a 4" >or less > > backspace. When I measured the available space, the front >limitation for me > > is the position of the heater air intake hose but I can fix that by > > tighening the retaining strap. My rear limitation is on tire size >because > > the wheel arches are not centred over the wheels. I imagine that >could be > > caused by the body being mounted slightly forward on the chassis. >With > > smaller 185/70R13 tires fitted when my car was restored, they >probably > > figured it didn't matter enough to adjust it. > > > > I'm still mulling over tire size, but I'm leaning towards 205/45R17 >tires on > > the front and 215/45R17 tires on the rear, if they'll fit. I >thought I'd > > have plenty of room but when I measured my current temporary >175/80R13s on > > the rear, their diameter is around 1/2" less than the original >Avons. The > > 185/70R13s are smaller than spec as well so that would explain why >my speedo > > was over-reading so much with those on the rear. When I get >everything > > figured out and fitted, I'll send in an updated photo. > > > > Regards, > > > > Paul Dransfield > > 3 litre Volvo > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Don Lattimer [mailto:donlattimer@p...] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 2:12 PM > > To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Mystery Marcos found > > > > > > Just received another email from the Marconi Museum and the DeDion > > IRS car they have is serial #4043. > > > > That confuses things a bit. If Jem said that 33 were made with the > > DeDion then some in the first 50 or so had to have live rear >axles. > > Starting serial # would probably be 4001. > > > > Oh well, I'll keep digging for more info. > > > > Don Lattimer > > #3m5759 > > > > > > > > > > --- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, "Don Lattimer" > > <donlattimer@p...> wrote: > > > Just got a reply from the Marconi Museum in Tustin, CA. They >have > > the > > > Marcos that was restored here in Willits, CA back in the late >80's > > and sold > > > at a Rick Cole auction in 1989. It is an early 1800 with the > > DeDion > > > independant rear suspension. So the mystery is solved........... > > > > > > Don Lattimer > > > #3m5759 > > > Willits, CA USA > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > MarcosManiacs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to >http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 21:58:15 EDT > From: rharding916@... >Subject: Re: Another found Marcos in museum > >Don, > >Thanks for the info. I found a new set of points and a new distributor cap >that I forgot I had so am in good shape for now. I am going to check out >the >Pertronix Ignition though, as I just installed an electric fuel pump and >for the >first time now have decent fuel pressure to work with so any extra spark >will >be a bonus. >I also just installed a new set of 205/60R13 Sumitomo HTR4 tires and love >them. They are speed rated to 134mph, handle very very well, have a tread >pattern >for all seasons for those that drive in the rain, and the tread looks like >old dirt track tires which really suits the period of the car and look >great as >well. I did not pick up any additional ground clearance but also no extra >weight either. > >Take Care, > >Rick Harding >5418 > > >[This message contained attachments] > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 22:07:44 EDT > From: rharding916@... >Subject: Re: Another found Marcos in museum > >Thank you Garry. It is much appreciated. > >Rick Harding >5418 > > >[This message contained attachments] > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 01:28:12 EDT > From: Meggsief@... >Subject: Gas Tank/Gauge > >Does anyone have a spare Lucas temperature gauge? Also, any ideas on a >place >to repair or buy a new gas tank? Mine is currently turning into swiss >cheese. >When I bought my Marcos the prior owner said it had a DeDion rear end. As I >have never had it up on a lift, what would be my indicators as to which >rear >end I have. > >This past weekend, I proved that you can stuff your bride and her gown into >the cockpit of a 1600 GT Marcos... yes, it can be done. > >Hal >#5353 > > >[This message contained attachments] > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Search, for relevant search results! http://search.msn.be
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Re: [MarcosManiacs] Digest Number 470
2003-07-02 by Maarten Krikken