Marcos Maniacs

The manifolds must be different now as the ones I bought from him to 
replace the cast iron ones I needed remove a good 1 inche wide by 10 
inch long by 6 inches high area from the inner side of the foot well. 
It follows a frame member back from the engine compartment. Don 
actually saw it if he remembers. I bought them 2 years ago I guess.

Dano in Fla has the car now along with the cutting diagram that came 
with it.




--- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "a5h_pm" <ashley_molyneux@h...> wrote:
> Hi Mark/Don et al.
> 
> I've now spoken to Rory, and I tought I ought to share what I've 
> found out with you guys just in case any of it is useful!
> 
> The exhaust manifolds I have ARE identical! This is because they 
are 
> the wrong ones! (they were for the Scimitar and may even be 
specific 
> to that car, the ones that I need and you guys with the V6 have are 
> from the Ford Zodiac and ARE both different! they were turned round 
> from the original instalation to face forward instead of backwards.
> Now I've also asked Rory about the tubular manifolds he can supply 
> instead, these do not require any modification to the footwells as 
> has been mentioned here in the past, this is only the case for the 
V8 
> instalation in which case approx 1/2inch adjustment is required.
> 
> As for the engine mounts it would appear that on the V6 the 
mounting 
> points on the chassis are both in the same position which is just 
> behind the wishbone mounting point closed to the footwell. Does 
this 
> make sense to you guys and could you please confirm this for me so 
I 
> can move my right hand mounting.
> 
> My next question to Rory was regarding the use of my Ford Corsair 
> 2000E 4speed gearbox, Rory advised me (as many of you have mind), 
> that I should definatley ditch this for either a 4 speed overdrive 
or 
> a 5speed Granada box (as fitted to the last Granada's with the 
Essex 
> engine). Can anyone enlighten me as to any suggest upgrade route 
they 
> may have taken with this one?
> 
> What I have learned today has obviously put my ETD (estimated time 
to 
> Drive ;) ) back some what, but I am sure I will bounch back!
> 
> Thanks for all your help guys even thoughyou thought I was mad 
> earlier with the exhaust question - thankfully I now understand why 
> you would have thought this :)
> 
> Cheers
> Ashley
> #5504
> 
> www.molyneuxs.com
> 
>  
> 
> --- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "a5h_pm" <ashley_molyneux@h...> wrote:
> > Hi Mark/Don,
> > 
> > I can confirm that the engine does have the cast type headers, 
but 
> I 
> > as I am not close to the engine now I can not confirm (or deny!) 
> what 
> > is being said to me about them! I can however say that from my 
now 
> > some what confused memory looking from above with the front of 
the 
> > engine furthest away from me, the left header exits between 
> cylinders 
> > 5 and 6, and the right hand header exits between 1 and 2, so 
> turning 
> > the manifold through 180degrees would acheive the same on either 
> > side?...... OK I've just drawn myself a diagram and I could be so 
> > wrong that I am gong to shut up until I can verify whay I am 
> saying! 
> > Can you confirm that looking from above the engine the exhaust 
> > headers both exit an imaginary line exactly perpendicular to the 
> > chassis though? (ie for example not just at the centre of 
Cylinders 
> 2 
> > & 5 which are off set)
> > 
> > Thanks for you help guys! (and for putting doubt even in my own 
> mind 
> > now!!)
> > 
> > My next problem to overcome is the engine mountings - I am 
speaking 
> > to Rory at Marcos Heritage today so hopefully this will soon also 
> be 
> > cleared up!
> > 
> > Cheers
> > 
> > Ashley
> > #5504
> > 
> > --- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "mark_saxby" <mark.saxby@n...> wrote:
> > > That may depend on whether these are the original ones.
> > > 
> > > Ashley, are they tubular or cast? If cast, they're almost 
> certainly 
> > > as Don describes, but if tubular, they may be symmetrical to 
mate 
> > to 
> > > a specific exhaust system. I know that Capri GT (Ford ones) 
> tubular 
> > > manifolds are NOT symmetrical, btw, they mate up in the same 
way, 
> > but 
> > > are much bulkier than the cast ones and don't fit in the Marcos 
> > > engine bay (not without much cutting, anyway, which I didn't 
do!)
> > > 
> > > Cheers.
> > > 
> > > Mark
> > > 
> > > --- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "mcaqmd" <donlattimer@p...> wrote:
> > > > Ashley,
> > > > 
> > > > Take a good look at your headers.  They can't be identical.  
If 
> > you 
> > > > remove one side and move it to the other side, the outlet 
will 
> be 
> > > > forward.  Think about it.  
> > > > 
> > > > I'll check my engine mounts tonight and let you know how 
mine's 
> > set 
> > > > up.
> > > > 
> > > > Don Lattimer
> > > > #3m5759
> > > > Willits, CA
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "a5h_pm" <ashley_molyneux@h...> 
> wrote:
> > > > > Hi again guys, stupid question time!
> > > > > I am as you or may not know, converting my V4 car into a V6 
> > car. 
> > > > > This to me was a straight forward task! Anyway today 
finally 
> > > after 
> > > > > many years I finally managed to manually turn the V6 over 
by 
> > > hand, 
> > > > > it has been standing since 1985 so was a little bit 
> difficult! 
> > > > > (diesel left in th bores for a couple of weeks works 
wonders 
> by 
> > > > the 
> > > > > way guys should you ever need to do the same). Anyway while 
> > > > studying 
> > > > > the engines side by side I noticed that the V4 mountings 
were 
> > off 
> > > > > set, yet the V6 mountings appear to be in the same place on 
> the 
> > > > > chassis on both sides. So question, those of you with the 
> Ford 
> > V6 
> > > > > could you please confirm the position of the engine mounts 
> both 
> > > on 
> > > > > the chassis and if possible which bolt holes are used on 
the 
> > > > engine 
> > > > > casting.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Next question relates to the exhaust manifolds. I've read 
> that 
> > to 
> > > > > use the original V6 engine it was necessary to swop the 
> > manifolds 
> > > > > over, now this implies that both manifolds are different. 
The 
> > > ones 
> > > > > ont the engine I have (from a Scimtar GTE) are both 
identical 
> > so 
> > > > > swoping them over would have no effect! The actual position 
> of 
> > > the 
> > > > > outlets is once again looking from above is symetrical and 
> lies 
> > > > > behind the engine moutings.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I am not sure if anyone on this group has actually caried 
out 
> > the 
> > > > V4 
> > > > > to V6 swop if you have I would love to hear from you!
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Many thanks for all your help once again guys!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Marcos motoring days are at last getting closer for me!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > > Ashley #5504
> > > > > www.molyneuxs.com for latest progress!