Homebrew_PCBs

There is a great deal of excellent information presented in this
group. It would be a shame to see members refrain from posting
files, photos, etc. because of limited space.

May I suggest a related group be set up for the purpose of storing
files and photos. The Homebrew_PCBs group would still be used as the
primary place to post messages. Additional archive groups could be
created as necessary to accommodate future storage demands.

The Homebrew_PCBs group can be used to store current files and
photos, say those less than one or two years. Older material can be
transferred to the archive group.

The new group might be called "Homebrew_PCBs_Archives". May I also
suggest that, in the future, anyone posting files and photos, include
the related message numbers in the associated descriptions. Doing so
will greatly facilitate the ease with which this material can be
used. It would be helpful to do this for the existing files and
photos.

The storage problem is not unique to this group but will become
common as other active groups grow in size. As cost of storage
decreases, Yahoo may eventually allocate additional space to its
groups. But until then, a long-term solution must be found.

Lyman

hi,

i think it is a good idea, but i have heard in the past that yahoo has
shut down groups if there was no use, so we would need to put a few
messages a month there i think (e.g. "new file uploaded" notifications
might do the trick..)


The thing with adding the message number is a problem, because those of us
using the mail interface have a hard time getting the message number.


ST

On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 17:49:43 +0200, Radra <infositeus@...> wrote:

> There is a great deal of excellent information presented in this
> group. It would be a shame to see members refrain from posting
> files, photos, etc. because of limited space.
> May I suggest a related group be set up for the purpose of storing
> files and photos. The Homebrew_PCBs group would still be used as the
> primary place to post messages. Additional archive groups could be
> created as necessary to accommodate future storage demands.
> The Homebrew_PCBs group can be used to store current files and
> photos, say those less than one or two years. Older material can be
> transferred to the archive group.
> The new group might be called "Homebrew_PCBs_Archives". May I also
> suggest that, in the future, anyone posting files and photos, include
> the related message numbers in the associated descriptions. Doing so
> will greatly facilitate the ease with which this material can be
> used. It would be helpful to do this for the existing files and
> photos.
> The storage problem is not unique to this group but will become
> common as other active groups grow in size. As cost of storage
> decreases, Yahoo may eventually allocate additional space to its
> groups. But until then, a long-term solution must be found.
> Lyman

Ah, great minds think alike. ;') I just posted before reading your
message.

Just set it up. It's a NoPost list, to avoid splitting the list. Files
and Photos are open for uploads, please crop aggressively. Use low
color GIF or PNG for schematics and printable PCB patterns, JPG for
photos. Limit Photo uploads to 300x400, as anything larger is a waste
since Yahoogroups only shows everyone a 300x400 resampled version if
you upload larger. Only the uploader and the listowner can see larger
Photos.

I liked your idea of a listname better.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/

Reply To is set for the listowner to avoid confusion. Post normally here.

"May I also suggest that, in the future, anyone posting files and
photos, include the related message numbers in the associated
descriptions. Doing so will greatly facilitate the ease with which
this material can be used. It would be helpful to do this for the
existing files and photos."

I agree 100%!

Steve Greenfield, listowner

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Radra" <infositeus@y...> wrote:
> There is a great deal of excellent information presented in this
> group. It would be a shame to see members refrain from posting
> files, photos, etc. because of limited space.
>
> May I suggest a related group be set up for the purpose of storing
> files and photos. The Homebrew_PCBs group would still be used as the
> primary place to post messages. Additional archive groups could be
> created as necessary to accommodate future storage demands.
>
> The Homebrew_PCBs group can be used to store current files and
> photos, say those less than one or two years. Older material can be
> transferred to the archive group.
>
> The new group might be called "Homebrew_PCBs_Archives". May I also
> suggest that, in the future, anyone posting files and photos, include
> the related message numbers in the associated descriptions. Doing so
> will greatly facilitate the ease with which this material can be
> used. It would be helpful to do this for the existing files and
> photos.
>
> The storage problem is not unique to this group but will become
> common as other active groups grow in size. As cost of storage
> decreases, Yahoo may eventually allocate additional space to its
> groups. But until then, a long-term solution must be found.
>
> Lyman

On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 22:39:02 +0200, Steve <alienrelics@...> wrote:

> Ah, great minds think alike. ;') I just posted before reading your
> message.
> Just set it up. It's a NoPost list, to avoid splitting the list. Files
> and Photos are open for uploads, please crop aggressively. Use low
> color GIF or PNG for schematics and printable PCB patterns, JPG for
> photos. Limit Photo uploads to 300x400, as anything larger is a waste
> since Yahoogroups only shows everyone a 300x400 resampled version if
> you upload larger. Only the uploader and the listowner can see larger
> Photos.

Interesting they allow making a no-post list, why don't they simply give
us more space then?

ST

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Trethan"
<stefan_trethan@g...> wrote:

> On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 22:39:02 +0200, Steve <alienrelics@y...> wrote:
>
> > Ah, great minds think alike. ;') I just posted before reading your
> > message.
> > Just set it up. It's a NoPost list, to avoid splitting the list. Files
> > and Photos are open for uploads, please crop aggressively.

>
> Interesting they allow making a no-post list, why don't they simply

give

> us more space then?

It would have been more accurate for me to call it an
announcement-only list. I set it to Moderator Post Only.

Steve Greenfield

>
> Interesting they allow making a no-post list, why don't they simply give
> us more space then?
>
> ST
>

Those are for announcement lists etc. Lots of times you want people to be
able to sign up and get info without anyone but the list originator being able
to post..

Answer to your question is that people would use it. If they gave 10 gigs,
they'd have 10 gigs of crap from way too many lists. At least this way people
either have to clean it out or go to the bother of making another list. Just a
way to slow down the endless expansion.

They could easily allow putting in an application for more space, that would
take 6 months or something to get, and only after a group has been active for 6
months prior. That would mainly limit it to real groups, and not just everyone
setting one up applying for 100 megs or similar.

Chopping picture quality down really doesn't affect most non-text JPGs too
badly either. The pics I had were 250K+ until I chopped them down. Hardly
changed them at all visually, could have set to even lower quality setting and
been ok, but it's on my space so it doesn't matter much.

Alan

hi,

please ignore any posts with old date, i couldn't send any posts from my
usual address to the list, seems they fixed it now and all the day-old
posts are getting through ;-)
Sorry for the inconvenience but it ain't my bad, blaim yahoo.

thanks
ST