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If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Cost per print" is a good subject line.
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If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Cost per print" is a good subject line.
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If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Cost per print" is a good subject line.
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Spam- spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. See the list main page for policy regarding "For Sale" items. OT sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

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If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

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Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

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If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
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Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

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Spam- spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. See the list main page for policy regarding "For Sale" items. OT sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

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If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

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If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

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If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

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If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

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Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list.

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Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

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Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

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If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

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Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list.

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If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

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Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list.

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If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

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Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list.

Spam- spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. See the list main page for policy regarding "For Sale" items. OT sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

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If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

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Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list.

Spam- spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. See the list main page for policy regarding "For Sale" items. OT sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

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If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

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Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list.

Spam- spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. See the list main page for policy regarding "For Sale" items. OT sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

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If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

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Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list.

Spam- spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. See the list main page for policy regarding "For Sale" items. OT sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

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If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

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Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list.

Spam- spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. See the list main page for policy regarding "For Sale" items. OT sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

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If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

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Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list.

Spam- spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. See the list main page for policy regarding "For Sale" items. OT sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

Monthly Reminder, please read:

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Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

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Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list.

Spam- spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. See the list main page for policy regarding "For Sale" items. OT sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

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If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

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Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list.

Spam- spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. See the list main page for policy regarding "For Sale" items. OT sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

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Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list.

Spam- spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. See the list main page for policy regarding "For Sale" items. OT sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

Monthly Reminder, please read:

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Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, where "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

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Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list.

Spam- spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. See the list main page for policy regarding "For Sale" items. OT sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos:
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Monthly Reminder, please read:

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Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, where "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

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Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list.

Spam- spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. See the list main page for policy regarding "For Sale" items. OT sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/

Monthly Reminder, please read:

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, where "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

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Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list.

Spam- spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. See the list main page for policy regarding "For Sale" items. OT sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/

Monthly Reminder, please read:

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, where "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list.

Spam- spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. See the list main page for policy regarding "For Sale" items. OT sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/

Monthly Reminder, please read:

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
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I was wanting to try silicone paper for resist transfer again.
As i see it the problem i have is that there is not enough toner to cover
the copper fully.
With the inkjet paper the white residue left behind probably helps with
covering it.

I thought my old HP IIID made a darker image, but actually it is slightly
lighter than the lexmark M412 on darkest setting.

So, holding the prints against a light, i can see translucence on all
traces that have any width (say 1mm).

Now i wonder, is there any model of printer that will print a totally
opaque image?
I tried printing twice but the registration is severely off.

I'd really like it if i could use silicone paper for resist transfers,
since it works so great with legend.

Thanks

ST

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Trethan"
<stefan_trethan@...> wrote:

>
> I was wanting to try silicone paper for resist transfer again.
> As i see it the problem i have is that there is not enough toner to

cover

> the copper fully.
> With the inkjet paper the white residue left behind probably

helps with

> covering it.
>
> I thought my old HP IIID made a darker image, but actually it

is slightly

> lighter than the lexmark M412 on darkest setting.
>
> So, holding the prints against a light, i can see translucence on

all

> traces that have any width (say 1mm).
>
> Now i wonder, is there any model of printer that will print a

totally

> opaque image?
> I tried printing twice but the registration is severely off.
>
> I'd really like it if i could use silicone paper for

resist transfers,

> since it works so great with legend.
>
> Thanks
>
> ST
>

I mentioned this in another thread: I believe that color laser
printers/photocopiers have a different kind of black toner than
monochrome ones. I've tried dozens of different types of printers, and
only the color ones had a dense, opaque black. I have not seen as many
results from home color lasers, but I would assume they would also be
like this. A color laser needs to have nice, dense glossy colors in
order for copies of photos, etc, to look nice. A monochrome printer is
less likely to be used for anything but text, and on paper, you won't
notice the density difference. Color printers also tend to have a
higher resolution, making the pattern less jagged.

I used to use press'n'peel with a Xerox monochrome laser printer (I
have also used it with Canon and HP ones) and even with the extra
layer of blue from this, there would still be pitting on the etches.
I've switched to a color laser photocopier, and just with the toner
alone, there's only about 1/8th as much pitting, if I used green TRF
I'm sure it would go down to zero. The only problem with color lasers
is that they tend to run quite a bit warmer than black and white ones,
so you have to be sure whatever you're running through it isn't going
to melt.

On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 17:25:00 +0100, fenrir_co <fenrir@...>
wrote:

>
> I mentioned this in another thread: I believe that color laser
>
> printers/photocopiers have a different kind of black toner than
>
> monochrome ones. I've tried dozens of different types of printers, and
>
> only the color ones had a dense, opaque black. I have not seen as many
>
> results from home color lasers, but I would assume they would also be
>
> like this. A color laser needs to have nice, dense glossy colors in
>
> order for copies of photos, etc, to look nice. A monochrome printer is
>
> less likely to be used for anything but text, and on paper, you won't
>
> notice the density difference. Color printers also tend to have a
>
> higher resolution, making the pattern less jagged.

Hmmm, so you're basically saying i must go and buy a color laser....
i would like one...

I't would be great if someone could confirm that they print a better
black, and tell me the model he has.

thanks

ST

I'm wondering..

If i can set print density in software maybe there's a way to tweak it
just a bit more in hardware?
I believe it is adjusted via some voltage? In the old IIID there is a pot
on the HV module to set density.

Any insights welcome.

ST

Stefan Trethan wrote:

>
>i would like one...
>
>I't would be great if someone could confirm that they print a better
>black, and tell me the model he has.
>
>
>

Remember though paper and transferring are very different. 'Better
black' may be accomplished by a finer, thinner toner that covers the
paper better but leaves less extra to transfer. The better HP black for
my 6L actually transfers a little worse than the cheap generic toner.

Of course might work better by different means, just get a test print
to try or of course just want the color laser anyway.. :)

Watch Fatwallet for deals, now and then are some good ones on the
color lasers, quite reasonable ending numbers for such good printers.
Also read the past threads on them, some are much worse for replacement
toners etc than others.

Alan

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Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, where "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/

As an experiment, a Forum style list has been setup. I am learning to use phpBB, so it will evolve over time. This does -not- change the status of the Yahoogroup for Homebrew_PCBs, it is just an experiment.
http://polyphoto.com/homebrewpcbs/

Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs

Monthly Reminder, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of another thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, where "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/

As an experiment, a Forum style list has been setup. I am learning to use phpBB, so it will evolve over time. This does -not- change the status of the Yahoogroup for Homebrew_PCBs, it is just an experiment.
http://polyphoto.com/homebrewpcbs/

Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

20nm silver nanoparticles sprayed from Brother inkjet on glossy
photopaper, PET, other substrates.

Next problem, gluing the chip on. They suggest silver epoxy or
conductive double-sided adhesive.

References Article:
Instant Inkjet Circuits: Lab-based Inkjet Printing to Support Rapid
Prototyping of UbiComp Devices
http://dl.acm.org/ft_gateway.cfm?id=2493486&ftid=1392308&dwn=1&CFID=267854535&CFTOKEN=14451111

from:
http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=2493486

Power Electronics article about:
http://powerelectronics.com/blog/georgia-tech-develops-low-cost-circuits-printable-inkjet-printers?NL=PET-01&Issue=PET-01_20131204_PET-01_56&YM_RID=obnoxium@...&YM_MID=1437369&sfvc4enews=42&cl=article_1

Abstract:

> This paper introduces a low cost, fast and accessible technology to
> support the rapid prototyping of functional electronic devices.
> Central to this approach of 'instant inkjet circuits' is the ability
> to print highly conductive traces and patterns onto flexible
> substrates such as paper and plastic films cheaply and quickly. In
> addition to providing an alternative to breadboarding and conventional
> printed circuits, we demonstrate how this technique readily supports
> large area sensors and high frequency applications such as antennas.
> Unlike existing methods for printing conductive patterns, conductivity
> emerges within a few seconds without the need for special equipment.
> We demonstrate that this technique is feasible using commodity inkjet
> printers and commercially available ink, for an initial investment of
> around US$300. Having presented this exciting new technology, we
> explain the tools and techniques we have found useful for the first
> time. Our main research contribution is to characterize the
> performance of instant inkjet circuits and illustrate a range of
> possibilities that are enabled by way of several example applications
> which we have built. We believe that this technology will be of
> immediate appeal to researchers in the ubiquitous computing domain,
> since it supports the fabrication of a variety of functional
> electronic device prototypes.

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General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
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Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

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General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

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Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

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Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
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Messages and threads:
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To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
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Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Just a polite suggestion:

I suggest that you shorten/condense this message. I doubt that many will take the time to actually read it. It would be more effective if more did.

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101

Monthly Reminder for Homebrew_PCBs list, please read:

Messages and threads:
Please do NOT start a new thread by replying to another message. Even if you change the subject line completely and trim all the original messages off, there is information in the hidden header that Yahoogroups detects and then lists it as if it were part of that thread.
To start a new thread, start a new message to the list address. homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com

On Topic vs off topic:
The list is quite busy and the subject of making printed circuits covers quite a broad area, from PCB software to modifying printers to CNC milling. So I ask that any questions or comments whose purpose is not strictly on topic to take place off the list or on another more suitable list.
General electronics questions should go to the Electronics_101 list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101
Direct inkjet printing onto PCBs is on topic here, however I have set up a list for more detailed discussion of the modification of inkjet printers and building of inkjet plotters, the Inkjet_PCB_Construction list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Inkjet_PCB_Construction/

Subject lines:
Remember to change the subject line if you are straying from the original thread. Please change the subject line if you are on digest, as "Digest 1044" means nothing to anyone.
If you want an answer to a question, use a descriptive subject line. "Help Me" is bad subject line. "Bits for milling PCBs" is a good subject line.
Subject lines affect whether or not people even read your message, and affect people searching the archives for help at a later date.

Trim messages- especially if you are receiving messages in digest form. By the same token, quote enough so we know what you are responding to. "Yeah, I agree" means nothing if no one knows who you are answering or what you are agreeing with. And it is just irritating if it is added to an untrimmed huge long quoted message(s).

Uploading files and photos:
Please use the Description field. Think of a future member finding this, and put enough description so they'll know why it is on the Homebrew_PCBs list out of context of any messages you may have posted about it. Examples: "Toner transfer using Office Depot Glossy Photo paper run 6 times through GBC laminator, worked great" is good, "My latest project" is bad. I may at any time delete files and photos with insufficient description.

Remember to check the Links and Files if you have questions, you may find the answer there already. Don't be shy about asking, but keep in mind people are more likely to be helpful if they feel you've done some homework before asking. "What is toner transfer?" shows you didn't even try, but "I have an HP 2100 laser printer, will it work for toner transfer?" shows you have done some reading first.

Do not send "unsubscribe" messages to the list. Either send an email to "Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com" or log onto your groups at http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups to edit your groups. If you are unable to unsubscribe following these instructions, email the listowner at Homebrew_PCBs-owner@yahoogroups.com.

Please do -not- post virus warnings. This has been hashed to death on this list and others. If we want to hear about soccer, we'll sign up on a soccer list, if we want to hear about virii we'll sign up on a virus list. Sports, religion, and politics are OFF TOPIC for the list, feelings run high and it is too easy for a passing comment to flare up into a flame war.

Suggestions, recommendations and such, to and from professionals and companies are welcome. If you are posting for your own business, please limit ads to once a month and feel free to post your site in the Links area. Company representatives are encouraged to respond to legit requests for information as long as you identify your connection. IE, don't pretend to be an unconnected customer, there are enough savvy people here that you'll be found out quickly. Just use common sense about replying or people might think you are flogging your business.

Spam- Spammers will be treated with all the respect they deserve. Off Topic sale ads, links, uploads, etc. will be treated as spam and may result in your removal from the list and banning from every other list I am listowner or moderator of.

An Archives list has been set up so we have more storage for Files and Photos. There is no posting allowed, it is there just so we have more upload space as the Files area of the main list is already 99% full:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/


Thank you,
Steve Greenfield
listowner Homebrew_PCBs and Electronics_101