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H200 laminator equivalent?

H200 laminator equivalent?

2004-08-21 by Leon Crowther

Gentleman,

The H200 sounds a good item to buy to attempt TT for PCBs, but I
have a problem. I live in Australia and this unit seems to be unknown
locally, probably because it would be a 110 Volt unit and we use 240
volts, so it is not imported by GBC locally.

I have contacted GBC in Australia and although they seemed helpful
initially, they appear to have lost interest when I told them what I
intended doing with it. They never got back to me.

So can someone help me, there is most likely the 240 V equivalent
available here, but how would I recognise it? Or would anyone in
Australia have such details? Any suggestions as what to do?

As all that has been said on this group concerning how ideal this
machine is, I am reluctant to just go and buy any laminator with the
possibility it is not up to the job, it is too late then.

Any guidance would be appreciated.
TIA Leon.

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] H200 laminator equivalent?

2004-08-21 by Lez

stepdown the 240 to 110.



----- Original Message -----

> Gentleman,
>
> The H200 sounds a good item to buy to attempt TT for PCBs, but I
> have a problem. I live in Australia and this unit seems to be unknown
> locally, probably because it would be a 110 Volt unit and we use 240
> volts, so it is not imported by GBC locally.
>

Re: H200 laminator equivalent?

2004-08-22 by Leon Crowther

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Lez" <lez.briddon@n...> wrote:
> stepdown the 240 to 110.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> > Gentleman,
> >
> > The H200 sounds a good item to buy to attempt TT for PCBs, but I
> > have a problem. I live in Australia and this unit seems to be
unknown
> > locally, probably because it would be a 110 Volt unit and we use
240
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> > volts, so it is not imported by GBC locally.
> >

Yes Lez that would be a possibility, but it would greatly inflate the
cost. I would need to buy from a supplier in the States, have it
shipped out here, pay import duties etc., then but a stepdown XFR.
There is probably a 240V version available here, that is my first
option.

Leon.

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] H200 laminator equivalent?

2004-09-12 by Bill Maxwell

Leon
I have made some gentle inquiries and it seems that GBC do not sell the H200
as such here in Oz, at least not through their own distributorship. They
only sell the more expensive models, intended for more frequent use.
However, one salesman did mention in passing that the cheaper models sold as
GBC in the USA are retailed through Corporate Express under another name
that I cant currently recall, but the models are known as Pouchmasters. I
will call into a Corporate Express outlet some time this week to follow up.
I'll let you know my findings
Bill
----- Original Message -----
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From: "Leon Crowther" <oxleyecclesia-leon@...>
To: <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 8:51 PM
Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] H200 laminator equivalent?


> Gentleman,
>
> The H200 sounds a good item to buy to attempt TT for PCBs, but I
> have a problem. I live in Australia and this unit seems to be unknown
> locally, probably because it would be a 110 Volt unit and we use 240
> volts, so it is not imported by GBC locally.
>
> I have contacted GBC in Australia and although they seemed helpful
> initially, they appear to have lost interest when I told them what I
> intended doing with it. They never got back to me.
>
> So can someone help me, there is most likely the 240 V equivalent
> available here, but how would I recognise it? Or would anyone in
> Australia have such details? Any suggestions as what to do?
>
> As all that has been said on this group concerning how ideal this
> machine is, I am reluctant to just go and buy any laminator with the
> possibility it is not up to the job, it is too late then.
>
> Any guidance would be appreciated.
> TIA Leon.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Bookmarks and files:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs
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>
>
>
>
>

Re: H200 laminator equivalent?

2004-09-15 by Leon Crowther

Bill, firstly thanks for following up on this, I thought I had heard
to last to my question. From my queries locally I have been told that
the cheapies run at only about 120 degrees, from this group I gather
the H200 is red hot and that is the first requirement. I have some
PCB 0.25mm thick so I borrowed my son's laminator (a cheapie). I had
no success getting any toner to adhere even from Time magazine paper,
but with one exception, and that was from the oven paper suggested in
this group. Actually the toner was so lightly attached to the oven
paper that the finer cutting lines had fallen off before I had done
the process, I think a hot breath would have even worked with that.
So I have no doubts that good heat is a key to success.
So I need a cheap one that gets red hot, which brings me back to the
H200 or equivalent. Bill, if you can get any more info I shall be
pleased to hear about it.

In the mean time I will follow up on those two names you have
mentioned in your post.
Thanks Leon.


--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Maxwell" <wrmaxwell@b...>
wrote:
> Leon
> I have made some gentle inquiries and it seems that GBC do not sell
the H200
> as such here in Oz, at least not through their own
distributorship. They
> only sell the more expensive models, intended for more frequent use.
> However, one salesman did mention in passing that the cheaper
models sold as
> GBC in the USA are retailed through Corporate Express under another
name
> that I cant currently recall, but the models are known as
Pouchmasters. I
> will call into a Corporate Express outlet some time this week to
follow up.
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> I'll let you know my findings
> Bill
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Leon Crowther" <oxleyecclesia-leon@p...>
> To: <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 8:51 PM
> Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] H200 laminator equivalent?

Re: H200 laminator equivalent?

2004-09-15 by Steve

I think the key is finding a laminator with temp control that has a
"foil" setting. That setting is there specifically to melt toner.

Steve

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Leon Crowther"
<oxleyecclesia-leon@p...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> Bill, firstly thanks for following up on this, I thought I had heard
> to last to my question. From my queries locally I have been told that
> the cheapies run at only about 120 degrees, from this group I gather
> the H200 is red hot and that is the first requirement. I have some
> PCB 0.25mm thick so I borrowed my son's laminator (a cheapie). I had
> no success getting any toner to adhere even from Time magazine paper,
> but with one exception, and that was from the oven paper suggested in
> this group.

Re: H200 laminator equivalent?

2004-09-15 by Phil

the H200 doesn't have foil setting, per se, but it does have a
settings for 3 and 5 MM. The 5MM setting kicks out a lot more heat.

I think our friends down under might be better served by salvaging a
laser printer for its fuser assembly. If I had to pay north of $100,
I'd probably take a pass on the laminator.

Phil


--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <alienrelics@y...>
wrote:
> I think the key is finding a laminator with temp control that has a
> "foil" setting. That setting is there specifically to melt toner.
>
> Steve
>
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Leon Crowther"
> <oxleyecclesia-leon@p...> wrote:
> > Bill, firstly thanks for following up on this, I thought I had
heard
> > to last to my question. From my queries locally I have been told
that
> > the cheapies run at only about 120 degrees, from this group I
gather
> > the H200 is red hot and that is the first requirement. I have
some
> > PCB 0.25mm thick so I borrowed my son's laminator (a cheapie). I
had
> > no success getting any toner to adhere even from Time magazine
paper,
> > but with one exception, and that was from the oven paper
suggested in
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> > this group.

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: H200 laminator equivalent?

2004-09-17 by Bill Maxwell

I think you may well be correct Phil, given the likely costs, and that is
most likely what I will do personally but for purposes of completing the
exercise, I will carry through on attempting to find a H200 equivalent here
in the Antipodes.

Bill
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From: "Phil" <phil1960us@...>
To: <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 1:50 AM
Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: H200 laminator equivalent?


> the H200 doesn't have foil setting, per se, but it does have a
> settings for 3 and 5 MM. The 5MM setting kicks out a lot more heat.
>
> I think our friends down under might be better served by salvaging a
> laser printer for its fuser assembly. If I had to pay north of $100,
> I'd probably take a pass on the laminator.
>
> Phil
>
>
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <alienrelics@y...>
> wrote:
> > I think the key is finding a laminator with temp control that has a
> > "foil" setting. That setting is there specifically to melt toner.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Leon Crowther"
> > <oxleyecclesia-leon@p...> wrote:
> > > Bill, firstly thanks for following up on this, I thought I had
> heard
> > > to last to my question. From my queries locally I have been told
> that
> > > the cheapies run at only about 120 degrees, from this group I
> gather
> > > the H200 is red hot and that is the first requirement. I have
> some
> > > PCB 0.25mm thick so I borrowed my son's laminator (a cheapie). I
> had
> > > no success getting any toner to adhere even from Time magazine
> paper,
> > > but with one exception, and that was from the oven paper
> suggested in
> > > this group.
>
>
>
>
> Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Bookmarks and files:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>