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Printer scale accuracy and blackness.

Printer scale accuracy and blackness.

2013-11-02 by Terry Mickelson

The Samsung CLP-325 set to 100% scale prints at 1:1 while an Epson  
Workforce 500 would print accurately at 100.5% if such a setting were  
available. I need accuracy and an opaque printout but neither printer  
prints an opaque black. Has anyone looked at a Xerox wax printer for  
accuracy and opaqueness?
Terry Mickelson

RE: Printer scale accuracy and blackness.

2013-11-03 by <andrewm1973@...>

Phaser solid ink printer has


Excellent opaqueness

Excellent scale accuracy

Average resolution


My canon inkjet wins over the phaser for doing photo-tools.


Anecdotally Epson inkjets are meant to be better than canons. So unless you already have the phaser then your better off getting a known good inkjet.



---In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, <homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

The Samsung CLP-325 set to 100% scale prints at 1:1 while an Epson
Workforce 500 would print accurately at 100.5% if such a setting were
available. I need accuracy and an opaque printout but neither printer
prints an opaque black. Has anyone looked at a Xerox wax printer for
accuracy and opaqueness?
Terry Mickelson

RE: Printer scale accuracy and blackness.

2013-11-09 by <arvidj@...>

>Anecdotally Epson inkjets are meant to be better than canons. So unless you already have the phaser then

>your better off getting a known good inkjet.


Assuming you want to buy one, any particular Epson or are all Epson's up to the task?



---In homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com, <andrewm1973@...> wrote:

Phaser solid ink printer has


Excellent opaqueness

Excellent scale accuracy

Average resolution


My canon inkjet wins over the phaser for doing photo-tools.


Anecdotally Epson inkjets are meant to be better than canons. So unless you already have the phaser then your better off getting a known good inkjet.



---In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, <homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

The Samsung CLP-325 set to 100% scale prints at 1:1 while an Epson
Workforce 500 would print accurately at 100.5% if such a setting were
available. I need accuracy and an opaque printout but neither printer
prints an opaque black. Has anyone looked at a Xerox wax printer for
accuracy and opaqueness?
Terry Mickelson

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Printer scale accuracy and blackness.

2013-11-10 by Mark Mickelsen

Is there a samsung monochrome laser with the same accuracy as you describe for the SL-M2625D/XAC? I have a samsung ML-2010 that has gone to that great print room in the sky, and I need to replace it. I would like to replace it with a samsumg monochrome printer that I can use for making toner transfer PC boards as well as ordinary printing. Does anybody know if such a printer exists, and if so, what the model number is?
Thanks,
Mark Mickelsen





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On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Terry Mickelson <tmlist@...> wrote:

The Samsung CLP-325 set to 100% scale prints at 1:1 while an Epson
Workforce 500 would print accurately at 100.5% if such a setting were
available. I need accuracy and an opaque printout but neither printer
prints an opaque black. Has anyone looked at a Xerox wax printer for
accuracy and opaqueness?
Terry Mickelson

RE: Printer scale accuracy and blackness.

2013-11-11 by <twgray2007@...>

Where did you come up with those numbers (scale/size)?



---In homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com, <tmlist@...> wrote:

The Samsung CLP-325 set to 100% scale prints at 1:1 while an Epson
Workforce 500 would print accurately at 100.5% if such a setting were
available. I need accuracy and an opaque printout but neither printer
prints an opaque black. Has anyone looked at a Xerox wax printer for
accuracy and opaqueness?
Terry Mickelson

RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] RE: Printer scale accuracy and blackness.

2013-11-11 by Boman33

Note, some software allows independent scaling of both X & Y to compensate for printer or plotter errors.

Bertho

From: twgray2007@... Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 15:09

Where did you come up with those numbers (scale/size)?


---In homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com, <tmlist@...> wrote:

The Samsung CLP-325 set to 100% scale prints at 1:1 while an Epson
Workforce 500 would print accurately at 100.5% if such a setting were
available. I need accuracy and an opaque printout but neither printer
prints an opaque black. Has anyone looked at a Xerox wax printer for
accuracy and opaqueness?
Terry Mickelson

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] RE: Printer scale accuracy and blackness.

2013-11-12 by Terry Mickelson

On 11-Nov-13, at 12:09 PM, <twgray2007@...> wrote:


Where did you come up with those numbers (scale/size)?

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---In homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com, <tmlist@...> wrote:

The Samsung CLP-325 set to 100% scale prints at 1:1 while an Epson
Workforce 500 would print accurately at 100.5% if such a setting were
available. I need accuracy and an opaque printout but neither printer
prints an opaque black. Has anyone looked at a Xerox wax printer for
accuracy and opaqueness?
Terry Mickelson

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At the risk of sounding rude, the numbers come from a ruler on the  
printout.
Any further explanation would be a waste of time.
Terry Mickelson

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] RE: Printer scale accuracy and blackness.

2013-11-12 by Terry Mickelson


On 11-Nov-13, at 12:42 PM, Boman33 wrote:


Note, some software allows independent scaling of both X & Y to compensate for printer or plotter errors.

Bertho

I'm using Deneba's Canvas™ which I have used for years now because it doesn't break. I use the software for my renovations and PCB's and radio chassis assemblies, on a Mac. It does it all including the setting of the printout to any percentage but only in whole numbers. 100.5% just isn't there.

Terry Mickelson

RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] RE: Printer scale accuracy and blackness.

2013-11-12 by Boman33

Terry,

I also have Canvas.  For people not familiar with the program it is like a
combination of AutoCAD and Photoshop.

 

Version 11 for the PC, and I assume Mac, has independent high resolution
scaling.  I just scaled a sample 100.5 in X and 99.5% in Y and it worked as
expected.

 

AutoCAD has a printer/Plotter calibrate option and I did not check Canvas
but I would expect that there is an independent printer calibration option
so the original data can be left untouched.

 

For Gerber printing the GC-Preview will allow independent scaling.

Bertho
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On 11-Nov-13, at 12:42 PM, Boman33 wrote:

Note, some software allows independent scaling of both X & Y to compensate
for printer or plotter errors.

Bertho

 I'm using Deneba's CanvasT which I have used for years now because it
doesn't break. I use the software for my renovations and PCB's and radio
chassis assemblies, on a Mac. It does it all including the setting of the
printout to any percentage but only in whole numbers. 100.5% just isn't
there.

Terry Mickelson

RE: Printer scale accuracy and blackness.

2013-11-12 by <twgray2007@...>

No need to be a jerk about it...I'm not doubting your statement, I just need to determing the same thing for the printers I am using. OK, so you got them off the ruler...what software were you using that gave you the ruler? Jeez!!!



---In homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com, <tmlist@...> wrote:

The Samsung CLP-325 set to 100% scale prints at 1:1 while an Epson
Workforce 500 would print accurately at 100.5% if such a setting were
available. I need accuracy and an opaque printout but neither printer
prints an opaque black. Has anyone looked at a Xerox wax printer for
accuracy and opaqueness?
Terry Mickelson

RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] RE: Printer scale accuracy and blackness.

2013-11-12 by Boman33

I think you are missing the obvious: Print an object with known dimensions, for example a PCB, and physically measure the printed copy with a regular ruler.

Bertho
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No need to be a jerk about it...I'm not doubting your statement, I just need to determing the same thing for the printers I am using.  OK, so you got them off the ruler...what software were you using that gave you the ruler?  Jeez!!!

---In homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com, <tmlist@...> wrote:

The Samsung CLP-325 set to 100% scale prints at 1:1 while an Epson 
Workforce 500 would print accurately at 100.5% if such a setting were 
available. I need accuracy and an opaque printout but neither printer 
prints an opaque black. Has anyone looked at a Xerox wax printer for 
accuracy and opaqueness?
Terry Mickelson

RE: Printer scale accuracy and blackness.

2013-11-12 by <twgray2007@...>

Boy, is my face ever red...Got it! I was looking for a much more complicated solution! :+>



---In homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com, <boman33@...> wrote:

I think you are missing the obvious: Print an object with known dimensions, for example a PCB, and physically measure the printed copy with a regular ruler.

Bertho

From: twgray2007@... Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 09:09

No need to be a jerk about it...I'm not doubting your statement, I just need to determing the same thing for the printers I am using. OK, so you got them off the ruler...what software were you using that gave you the ruler? Jeez!!!

---In homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com, <tmlist@...> wrote:

The Samsung CLP-325 set to 100% scale prints at 1:1 while an Epson
Workforce 500 would print accurately at 100.5% if such a setting were
available. I need accuracy and an opaque printout but neither printer
prints an opaque black. Has anyone looked at a Xerox wax printer for
accuracy and opaqueness?
Terry Mickelson