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2012-12-24 by nps0
Just upgraded from TurboCAD 2 (DOS, but it sort of ran on Windows up through XP) to Turbocad 15. TC 2 had a nice set of board and schematic libraries - TC15 didn't come with either. Anyone out there have usable libraries for TC 15 they might be willing to share? Merry Christmas to all - Norm W6NIM
2012-12-25 by Harvey White
On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 16:29:19 -0000, you wrote: >Just upgraded from TurboCAD 2 (DOS, but it sort of ran on Windows up through XP) to Turbocad 15. TC 2 had a nice set of board and schematic libraries - TC15 didn't come with either. Anyone out there have usable libraries for TC 15 they might be willing to share? I once used corel draw, ended up switching to eagle after trying to write my own PCB program. Less work to have other people do the job. Harvey
> >Merry Christmas to all - > >Norm >W6NIM
2012-12-25 by Randall M
I too think you'll find Eagle a much easier program to use and it is quick to learn. Has many wonderful user supported scripts and libraries and it's own C-like scripting language. The Free version has a limit on board size but for most home users it will be more than enough. I use Eagle a lot at home and Altium Designer at work. Altium is able to import Eagle files but has a very hefty price tag and is complex to learn due to it's overwhelming variety of features and attempt to be a complete project solution. Which it does a very good job at but at the cost of complexity... Eagle also makes it easy to create your own components if you cannot find an existing library. Rather than investing in TC15 for Schematic or PCB CAD I would suggest using Eagle Freeware or Single user version. --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Harvey White <madyn@...> wrote:
> > On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 16:29:19 -0000, you wrote: > > >Just upgraded from TurboCAD 2 (DOS, but it sort of ran on Windows up through XP) to Turbocad 15. TC 2 had a nice set of board and schematic libraries - TC15 didn't come with either. Anyone out there have usable libraries for TC 15 they might be willing to share? > > I once used corel draw, ended up switching to eagle after trying to > write my own PCB program. Less work to have other people do the job. > > Harvey > > > > >Merry Christmas to all - > > > >Norm > >W6NIM >
2012-12-25 by Harvey White
On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 03:58:05 -0000, you wrote: >I too think you'll find Eagle a much easier program to use and it is quick to learn. Has many wonderful user supported scripts and libraries and it's own C-like scripting language. The Free version has a limit on board size but for most home users it will be more than enough. I use Eagle a lot at home and Altium Designer at work. Altium is able to import Eagle files but has a very hefty price tag and is complex to learn due to it's overwhelming variety of features and attempt to be a complete project solution. Which it does a very good job at but at the cost of complexity... Eagle also makes it easy to create your own components if you cannot find an existing library. > >Rather than investing in TC15 for Schematic or PCB CAD I would suggest using Eagle Freeware or Single user version. > After I tried writing the program, I got Eagle and sooner or later upgraded to the hobbyist version, which does the 6*4 inch boards I need to do (display boards can be large). The OP used a drafting program, and I did, once. Harvey
> > >--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Harvey White <madyn@...> wrote: >> >> On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 16:29:19 -0000, you wrote: >> >> >Just upgraded from TurboCAD 2 (DOS, but it sort of ran on Windows up through XP) to Turbocad 15. TC 2 had a nice set of board and schematic libraries - TC15 didn't come with either. Anyone out there have usable libraries for TC 15 they might be willing to share? >> >> I once used corel draw, ended up switching to eagle after trying to >> write my own PCB program. Less work to have other people do the job. >> >> Harvey >> >> > >> >Merry Christmas to all - >> > >> >Norm >> >W6NIM >> >
2012-12-25 by Stefan Trethan
Try design spark or easy pc. <http://www.designspark.com/page/designspark-pcb-home-page> ST
On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 5:08 AM, Harvey White <madyn@dragonworks.info> wrote: > On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 03:58:05 -0000, you wrote: > >>I too think you'll find Eagle a much easier program to use and it is quick to learn. Has many wonderful user supported scripts and libraries and it's own C-like scripting language. The Free version has a limit on board size but for most home users it will be more than enough. I use Eagle a lot at home and Altium Designer at work. Altium is able to import Eagle files but has a very hefty price tag and is complex to learn due to it's overwhelming variety of features and attempt to be a complete project solution. Which it does a very good job at but at the cost of complexity... Eagle also makes it easy to create your own components if you cannot find an existing library. >> >>Rather than investing in TC15 for Schematic or PCB CAD I would suggest using Eagle Freeware or Single user version. >> > > After I tried writing the program, I got Eagle and sooner or later > upgraded to the hobbyist version, which does the 6*4 inch boards I > need to do (display boards can be large). > > The OP used a drafting program, and I did, once. > > Harvey > >> >> >>--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Harvey White <madyn@...> wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 16:29:19 -0000, you wrote: >>> >>> >Just upgraded from TurboCAD 2 (DOS, but it sort of ran on Windows up through XP) to Turbocad 15. TC 2 had a nice set of board and schematic libraries - TC15 didn't come with either. Anyone out there have usable libraries for TC 15 they might be willing to share? >>> >>> I once used corel draw, ended up switching to eagle after trying to >>> write my own PCB program. Less work to have other people do the job. >>> >>> Harvey >>> >>> > >>> >Merry Christmas to all - >>> > >>> >Norm >>> >W6NIM >>> >> > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Links, Files, and Photos: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBsYahoo! Groups Links > > >
2012-12-25 by Harvey White
On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 05:26:00 +0100, you wrote: >Try design spark or easy pc. ><http://www.designspark.com/page/designspark-pcb-home-page> > >ST Unlike your problems with Eagle, I seem to be able to deal with it without undue stress. It's not a windows program, nor (perhaps) is it a Mac or a Linux program. If you can deal with it, and wrap your mind around what it can do, then it's a good program. If you have difficulty, then using another program can be a good idea. I have enough work in Eagle that I'd rather not switch. It's possible that CADSOFT or their new masters can irritate me enough to make me want to switch, or perhaps cause me to. Been that way before, on other things. Still, I do need to mention that I don't think that I've ever had Eagle crash on me, which is more than I've seen with such windows compliant programs as Word (and IE, and the like). Harvey
> >On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 5:08 AM, Harvey White <madyn@...> wrote: >> On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 03:58:05 -0000, you wrote: >> >>>I too think you'll find Eagle a much easier program to use and it is quick to learn. Has many wonderful user supported scripts and libraries and it's own C-like scripting language. The Free version has a limit on board size but for most home users it will be more than enough. I use Eagle a lot at home and Altium Designer at work. Altium is able to import Eagle files but has a very hefty price tag and is complex to learn due to it's overwhelming variety of features and attempt to be a complete project solution. Which it does a very good job at but at the cost of complexity... Eagle also makes it easy to create your own components if you cannot find an existing library. >>> >>>Rather than investing in TC15 for Schematic or PCB CAD I would suggest using Eagle Freeware or Single user version. >>> >> >> After I tried writing the program, I got Eagle and sooner or later >> upgraded to the hobbyist version, which does the 6*4 inch boards I >> need to do (display boards can be large). >> >> The OP used a drafting program, and I did, once. >> >> Harvey >> >>> >>> >>>--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Harvey White <madyn@...> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 16:29:19 -0000, you wrote: >>>> >>>> >Just upgraded from TurboCAD 2 (DOS, but it sort of ran on Windows up through XP) to Turbocad 15. TC 2 had a nice set of board and schematic libraries - TC15 didn't come with either. Anyone out there have usable libraries for TC 15 they might be willing to share? >>>> >>>> I once used corel draw, ended up switching to eagle after trying to >>>> write my own PCB program. Less work to have other people do the job. >>>> >>>> Harvey >>>> >>>> > >>>> >Merry Christmas to all - >>>> > >>>> >Norm >>>> >W6NIM >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Links, Files, and Photos: >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBsYahoo! Groups Links >> >> >>
2012-12-25 by Mitch Davis
On 12/25/12, Harvey White <madyn@...> wrote: > >>Just upgraded from TurboCAD 2 (DOS, but it sort of ran on Windows up >> through XP) to Turbocad 15. TC 2 had a nice set of board and schematic >> libraries - TC15 didn't come with either. Anyone out there have usable >> libraries for TC 15 they might be willing to share? > > I once used corel draw, ended up switching to eagle after trying to > write my own PCB program. For what it's worth, there are two completely free and very usable, open source, cross-platform CAD packages, gEDA and KiCad. I have been happily using KiCad for many years. KiCad produces gerbers, and also produces PDF and postscript files, plus direct printing, to do the artwork for PCBs at home. Mitch.
2012-12-29 by tda7000
KiCad is the best! --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Mitch Davis <mjd@...> wrote:
> > On 12/25/12, Harvey White <madyn@...> wrote: > > > >>Just upgraded from TurboCAD 2 (DOS, but it sort of ran on Windows up > >> through XP) to Turbocad 15. TC 2 had a nice set of board and schematic > >> libraries - TC15 didn't come with either. Anyone out there have usable > >> libraries for TC 15 they might be willing to share? > > > > I once used corel draw, ended up switching to eagle after trying to > > write my own PCB program. > > For what it's worth, there are two completely free and very usable, > open source, cross-platform CAD packages, gEDA and KiCad. I have been > happily using KiCad for many years. > > KiCad produces gerbers, and also produces PDF and postscript files, > plus direct printing, to do the artwork for PCBs at home. > > Mitch. >
2012-12-29 by Andrew
--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "tda7000" <Tda7000@...> wrote: > > KiCad is the best! > +1!!
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Mitch Davis <mjd@> wrote: > > > > On 12/25/12, Harvey White <madyn@> wrote: > > > > > >>Just upgraded from TurboCAD 2 (DOS, but it sort of ran on Windows up > > >> through XP) to Turbocad 15. TC 2 had a nice set of board and schematic > > >> libraries - TC15 didn't come with either. Anyone out there have usable > > >> libraries for TC 15 they might be willing to share? > > > > > > I once used corel draw, ended up switching to eagle after trying to > > > write my own PCB program. > > > > For what it's worth, there are two completely free and very usable, > > open source, cross-platform CAD packages, gEDA and KiCad. I have been > > happily using KiCad for many years. > > > > KiCad produces gerbers, and also produces PDF and postscript files, > > plus direct printing, to do the artwork for PCBs at home. > > > > Mitch. > > >
2012-12-29 by Mitch Davis
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 12:26 AM, Andrew <a_wake@...> wrote: > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "tda7000" <Tda7000@...> wrote: >> >> KiCad is the best! > > +1!! Lest anyone decide on the basis of this to give up sliced bread and try KiCad, I should point out that KiCad is far from a polished program, and has warts-a-plenty. However it is in general GOOD ENOUGH for the majority of stuff that hobbyists want to do, and most of the warts are easily worked around. An example wart is that the symbols and footprints it's supplied with are terrible. But on the other hand, making new symbols and parts the KiCad way is not only easy, but fun. There are also several repositories around the net, and large numbers of parts converted from Eagle and Protel/Orcad. Two notes: First, KiCad is undergoing rapid development/renovation, and has been a bit unstable the past few months. The new features promise to be excellent, but if you're getting started and want the least-pain option, I suggest getting the 2012-01-19 version. Second, if you get stuck, there are two very active mailing lists, and an IRC online chat room: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kicad-users/ http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=kicad Being able to get live help around the clock is great. (Say hi to me, I'm "hackvana" :-) ) Regards, Mitch.
2012-12-30 by David
Have you tried Target3001? or Design Spark? both free and both are very easy to master, Design Spark has no limitations, and both have pretty comprehensive libraries, new symbols and footprints in Target3001 is a doddle! and there is of course Eagle also with a good library of parts. No point in re-inventing the wheel! David --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Harvey White <madyn@...> wrote:
> > On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 16:29:19 -0000, you wrote: > > >Just upgraded from TurboCAD 2 (DOS, but it sort of ran on Windows up through XP) to Turbocad 15. TC 2 had a nice set of board and schematic libraries - TC15 didn't come with either. Anyone out there have usable libraries for TC 15 they might be willing to share? > > I once used corel draw, ended up switching to eagle after trying to > write my own PCB program. Less work to have other people do the job. > > Harvey > > > > >Merry Christmas to all - > > > >Norm > >W6NIM >