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Baking LEDs

Baking LEDs

2011-12-07 by jharig23@ymail.com

Hello,

I am very new in the world of DIY PCBs.  As a basic example, I'm going to make a very simple LED circuit.  I've ordered up some SMD LEDs and matching current-limiting resistor.  

The interesting thing is that the bag the LEDs came in had a label indicating that I should bake them.  I did a quick search, and found one set of instructions indicating baking at 80 degrees C for 24 hours.  

I know that this is not really specific to construction of the PCB, but I thought one of you might be able to help me.  How do you guys handle this?  Toaster oven?  Or is there some kind of small oven that I can buy?  What do I put the LEDs on when I bake them?  A baking sheet?  Sorry for being obtuse - I just really don't know where to start.

Thank you for the help.

James

RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] Baking LEDs

2011-12-07 by Boman33

Some electronic components can absorb humidity and when going through the
thermal soldering cycle the humidity can expand and cause microscopic cracks
that later allows more humidly to get in and possibly degrade internal
circuits.

Baking is a common requirement for some complex ICs but I have not seen it
for LEDs.  For non-military-medical ... applications I would not worry about
it for hobby use.

Bertho

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Hello,

I am very new in the world of DIY PCBs. As a basic example, I'm going to
make a very simple LED circuit. I've ordered up some SMD LEDs and matching
current-limiting resistor. 

The interesting thing is that the bag the LEDs came in had a label
indicating that I should bake them. I did a quick search, and found one set
of instructions indicating baking at 80 degrees C for 24 hours. 

I know that this is not really specific to construction of the PCB, but I
thought one of you might be able to help me. How do you guys handle this?
Toaster oven? Or is there some kind of small oven that I can buy? What do I
put the LEDs on when I bake them? A baking sheet? Sorry for being obtuse - I
just really don't know where to start.

Thank you for the help.

James



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Re: Baking LEDs

2011-12-07 by jharig23@ymail.com

Okay, thanks Bertho.  I'll give it a try, and see what happens.

-James



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--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Boman33" <boman33@...> wrote:
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> Some electronic components can absorb humidity and when going through the
> thermal soldering cycle the humidity can expand and cause microscopic cracks
> that later allows more humidly to get in and possibly degrade internal
> circuits.
> 
> Baking is a common requirement for some complex ICs but I have not seen it
> for LEDs.  For non-military-medical ... applications I would not worry about
> it for hobby use.
> 
> Bertho
>

RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] Baking LEDs

2011-12-07 by MIKE DURKIN

I use a cup warmer and a steel cup to hold my parts for 24hrs.... more or less .... I just plan it out to do my hand soldering the next day .... I plan in the future to use a toaster oven to do soldering and preheat for repairs ....

oh... I have 2 soap stone boards - 10" wide by 14" long - to maintain constant temp,  don't know yet if I really need them but I know soapstone holds heat well...

still need a digital controller for the heating elements .... plans....plans .... plans.

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      Some electronic components can absorb humidity and when going through the

thermal soldering cycle the humidity can expand and cause microscopic cracks

that later allows more humidly to get in and possibly degrade internal

circuits.



Baking is a common requirement for some complex ICs but I have not seen it

for LEDs.  For non-military-medical ... applications I would not worry about

it for hobby use.



Bertho



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From: jharig23@...   Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 07:42

Hello,



I am very new in the world of DIY PCBs. As a basic example, I'm going to

make a very simple LED circuit. I've ordered up some SMD LEDs and matching

current-limiting resistor. 



The interesting thing is that the bag the LEDs came in had a label

indicating that I should bake them. I did a quick search, and found one set

of instructions indicating baking at 80 degrees C for 24 hours. 



I know that this is not really specific to construction of the PCB, but I

thought one of you might be able to help me. How do you guys handle this?

Toaster oven? Or is there some kind of small oven that I can buy? What do I

put the LEDs on when I bake them? A baking sheet? Sorry for being obtuse - I

just really don't know where to start.



Thank you for the help.



James



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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Baking LEDs

2011-12-07 by Erik Knise

James,

Bertho is correct.  Most IC's I worked with came in vacuum packed
backs with desiccant and a moisture indicator.  When re-flow soldering
you really should bake them if the moisture indicator is reading too
high but for hand soldering you shouldn't have any problems.

I've had issues with lots of LED's failing when heat curing silicone
conformal coating.  Be careful not to heat them up past spec...ours
started dying around 195 F but really starting giving out after 212 F.
 Turns out someone had cranked up the heat to cut the drying time in
half.

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Erik L. Knise
Seattle, WA
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On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Boman33 <boman33@...> wrote:
> Some electronic components can absorb humidity and when going through the
> thermal soldering cycle the humidity can expand and cause microscopic cracks
> that later allows more humidly to get in and possibly degrade internal
> circuits.
>
> Baking is a common requirement for some complex ICs but I have not seen it
> for LEDs.  For non-military-medical ... applications I would not worry about
> it for hobby use.
>
> Bertho
>

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