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Problems with GBC H220

Problems with GBC H220

2011-02-18 by acidblue

Just bought a GBC H220 and must say I am very disappointed, and plan on bringing it back.

I cannot get the toner to transfer to the pcb.
I am using the Pulsar toner paper and following the directions from their site.

I have tried as little as 5 passes and as much as 12, the toner will just not transfer, only a little bit has, but washes right off with water.

I don't get it, this is the laminator they recommend on their site.
I am using a HP Laserjet 2200D and have used the clothes iron process before with success, so I know it's not the toner,
I bought the H220 so I could get consistent results as sometimes using the iron method is a PIA.

Anybody else having problems with the H220?
I've tried both 3mil and 5mil settings.

If anybody has any insight please let me know

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Problems with GBC H220

2011-02-19 by Jan Kok

The H-220 works a lot better if you swap the two gears between the
motor and the rollers in order to slow down the rollers. The mod is
described at http://www.pulsarprofx.com/special/h-220/
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On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 4:52 PM, acidblue <sunblaster5@...> wrote:
> Just bought a GBC H220 and must say I am very disappointed, and plan on bringing it back.
>
> I cannot get the toner to transfer to the pcb.
> I am using the Pulsar toner paper and following the directions from their site.
>
> I have tried as little as 5 passes and as much as 12, the toner will just not transfer, only a little bit has, but washes right off with water.
>
> I don't get it, this is the laminator they recommend on their site.
> I am using a HP Laserjet 2200D and have used the clothes iron process before with success, so I know it's not the toner,
> I bought the H220 so I could get consistent results as sometimes using the iron method is a PIA.
>
> Anybody else having problems with the H220?
> I've tried both 3mil and 5mil settings.
>
> If anybody has any insight please let me know

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Problems with GBC H220

2011-02-19 by rocko

Thanks I swapped the gears and after 5 passes I got almost perfect
traces, about 80%
Tomorrow I'll try 7-10 passes.
Been using the Pulsar toner paper, but I like to try magazine paper as I
hear it's just as good.
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On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 18:32 -0700, Jan Kok wrote:
>   
> The H-220 works a lot better if you swap the two gears between the
> motor and the rollers in order to slow down the rollers. The mod is
> described at http://www.pulsarprofx.com/special/h-220/
> 
> On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 4:52 PM, acidblue <sunblaster5@...>
> wrote:
> > Just bought a GBC H220 and must say I am very disappointed, and plan
> on bringing it back.
> >
> > I cannot get the toner to transfer to the pcb.
> > I am using the Pulsar toner paper and following the directions from
> their site.
> >
> > I have tried as little as 5 passes and as much as 12, the toner will
> just not transfer, only a little bit has, but washes right off with
> water.
> >
> > I don't get it, this is the laminator they recommend on their site.
> > I am using a HP Laserjet 2200D and have used the clothes iron
> process before with success, so I know it's not the toner,
> > I bought the H220 so I could get consistent results as sometimes
> using the iron method is a PIA.
> >
> > Anybody else having problems with the H220?
> > I've tried both 3mil and 5mil settings.
> >
> > If anybody has any insight please let me know
> 
> 
> 
>

Re: Problems with GBC H220

2011-02-19 by leeleduc

I've been using the GBC H220 for a few months now and it works fine. Changing the two gears helps. I set the thickness for 5 mil. Also, you should ignore the "beep" that says it's ready and let the unit preheat for at least 20 minutes. I can get a good transfer using Pulsar paper with 2 passes doing this.
--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "acidblue" <sunblaster5@...> wrote:
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>
> Just bought a GBC H220 and must say I am very disappointed, and plan on bringing it back.
> 
> I cannot get the toner to transfer to the pcb.
> I am using the Pulsar toner paper and following the directions from their site.
> 
> I have tried as little as 5 passes and as much as 12, the toner will just not transfer, only a little bit has, but washes right off with water.
> 
> I don't get it, this is the laminator they recommend on their site.
> I am using a HP Laserjet 2200D and have used the clothes iron process before with success, so I know it's not the toner,
> I bought the H220 so I could get consistent results as sometimes using the iron method is a PIA.
> 
> Anybody else having problems with the H220?
> I've tried both 3mil and 5mil settings.
> 
> If anybody has any insight please let me know
>

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Problems with GBC H220

2011-02-19 by rocko

Thanks for the tip. :)
Yeah I kinda noticed I was getting the "Beep" after about only 10
minutes, even though the manual says can take up to 30min.
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On Sat, 2011-02-19 at 16:01 +0000, leeleduc wrote:
>   
> 
> 
> I've been using the GBC H220 for a few months now and it works fine.
> Changing the two gears helps. I set the thickness for 5 mil. Also, you
> should ignore the "beep" that says it's ready and let the unit preheat
> for at least 20 minutes. I can get a good transfer using Pulsar paper
> with 2 passes doing this.
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "acidblue" <sunblaster5@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Just bought a GBC H220 and must say I am very disappointed, and plan
> on bringing it back.
> > 
> > I cannot get the toner to transfer to the pcb.
> > I am using the Pulsar toner paper and following the directions from
> their site.
> > 
> > I have tried as little as 5 passes and as much as 12, the toner will
> just not transfer, only a little bit has, but washes right off with
> water.
> > 
> > I don't get it, this is the laminator they recommend on their site.
> > I am using a HP Laserjet 2200D and have used the clothes iron
> process before with success, so I know it's not the toner,
> > I bought the H220 so I could get consistent results as sometimes
> using the iron method is a PIA.
> > 
> > Anybody else having problems with the H220?
> > I've tried both 3mil and 5mil settings.
> > 
> > If anybody has any insight please let me know
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
>