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2011-02-17 by Randy S.
Would like to get a feel for what printers people are using for these PCB's? Mostly interested in the ones you are printing with at home .. so I can buy one .. If I remember right I think I saw one with the number 1018 or 1081 in it ?? Anyways.. whats everyone using ? Randy - N2CUA
2011-02-17 by Bob Butcher
I have a Brother HL1440 which does not work well. For some reason the toner does not want to transfer to the PCB, perhaps it takes more heat than I can generate. I also have an HP LaserJet 4 Plus that works better. Bob --- On Thu, 2/17/11, Randy S. <rj3819@...> wrote:
From: Randy S. <rj3819@...>
Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] preferred laserjet printers
To: "Homebrew_PCB" <homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, February 17, 2011, 10:51 AM
Would like to get a feel for what printers
people are using for these PCB's?
Mostly interested in the ones you are printing
with at home .. so I can buy one ..
If I remember right I think I saw one with the
number 1018 or 1081 in it ??
Anyways.. whats everyone using ?
Randy - N2CUA
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2011-02-17 by Randy S.
Thanks Bob .. I was trying to research the HP toners for melting temp .. doesnt seem to be readily published. I did find this however.. ""The HP 06A Black LaserJet Toner Cartridge is ideal for business or home users who need professional-quality laser output. It is designed together to work together with the HP LaserJet 5L and 6L series Printers, and the HP LaserJet 3100 and 3150 All-in-Ones. The special low-melt mechanism means lower temperatures for less energy waste and greater productivity. Average cartridge yields 2500 standard pages. Declared yield value in accordance with ISO/IEC 19752. "" So a good question might be if the 5L and 6L printers are being used with success ? If so .. perhaps printers with thes 06A cartridge might be a good choice ? Randy ________________________________
From: Bob Butcher <bbutcher85@...>
To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 1:11:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] preferred laserjet printers
I have a Brother HL1440 which does not work well. For some reason the toner does
not want to transfer to the PCB, perhaps it takes more heat than I can generate.
I also have an HP LaserJet 4 Plus that works better.
Bob
--- On Thu, 2/17/11, Randy S. <rj3819@...> wrote:
From: Randy S. <rj3819@...>
Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] preferred laserjet printers
To: "Homebrew_PCB" <homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, February 17, 2011, 10:51 AM
Would like to get a feel for what printers
people are using for these PCB's?
Mostly interested in the ones you are printing
with at home .. so I can buy one ..
If I remember right I think I saw one with the
number 1018 or 1081 in it ??
Anyways.. whats everyone using ?
Randy - N2CUA
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2011-02-17 by Erik Knise
DJ Delorie used to post on here a lot. His website is full of great info. http://www.delorie.com/electronics/laminator/ Most "stock" laminators are not hot enough. Some have been successful with lots of passes while some have made custom controllers. The issue a lot of people have is that right when it's done heating most laminators turn off the element until it gets to a threshold then it heats back up. Instead of using a slightly more complicated controller to get a nice steady temperature. It is possible to melt your laminator but a lot of people have had good luck with the gbc personal series laminators. On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Randy S. <rj3819@...> wrote: > Thanks Bob .. > I was trying to research the HP toners for melting temp .. doesnt seem to > be > readily published. > I did find this however.. > > ""The HP 06A Black LaserJet Toner Cartridge is ideal for business or home > users > who need professional-quality laser output. It is designed together to > work > together with the HP LaserJet 5L and 6L series Printers, and the HP > LaserJet > 3100 and 3150 All-in-Ones. The special low-melt mechanism means lower > temperatures for less energy waste and greater productivity. Average > cartridge > yields 2500 standard pages. Declared yield value in accordance with > ISO/IEC > 19752. "" > > So a good question might be if the 5L and 6L printers are being used with > success ? If so .. perhaps printers with thes 06A cartridge might be a good > choice ? > > > Randy > > > -- Erik L. Knise Pacific Shipping Company Seattle, WA [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2011-02-17 by Chris Kleeschulte
I use: hp p1505n it works well, it works under CUPS (linux and mac), it prints images that preserve proportions...pdfs are exactly as they appear on the computer screen. It prints my cheap magazine paper well (although I glue the paper to standard copier paper) and the non-HP toner refills are about $22. $80 for the HP ones. I find the fake ones from Amazon work equally well. Chris On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Erik Knise <elknise@gmail.com> wrote: > > > DJ Delorie used to post on here a lot. His website is full of great info. > http://www.delorie.com/electronics/laminator/ > > Most "stock" laminators are not hot enough. Some have been successful with > lots of passes while some have made custom controllers. The issue a lot of > people have is that right when it's done heating most laminators turn off > the element until it gets to a threshold then it heats back up. Instead of > using a slightly more complicated controller to get a nice steady > temperature. It is possible to melt your laminator but a lot of people have > had good luck with the gbc personal series laminators. > > > On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Randy S. <rj3819@...> wrote: > > > Thanks Bob .. > > I was trying to research the HP toners for melting temp .. doesnt seem to > > be > > readily published. > > I did find this however.. > > > > ""The HP 06A Black LaserJet Toner Cartridge is ideal for business or home > > users > > who need professional-quality laser output. It is designed together to > > work > > together with the HP LaserJet 5L and 6L series Printers, and the HP > > LaserJet > > 3100 and 3150 All-in-Ones. The special low-melt mechanism means lower > > temperatures for less energy waste and greater productivity. Average > > cartridge > > yields 2500 standard pages. Declared yield value in accordance with > > ISO/IEC > > 19752. "" > > > > So a good question might be if the 5L and 6L printers are being used with > > success ? If so .. perhaps printers with thes 06A cartridge might be a > good > > choice ? > > > > > > Randy > > > > > > > -- > Erik L. Knise > Pacific Shipping Company > Seattle, WA > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2011-02-17 by Randy S.
He had this info on the site . Thought it might be interesting for others . Assuming accruacy here and that things havent changed since it was posted. HP Toner 340 degrees F Brother Toner 370 Degrees F ________________________________
From: Erik Knise <elknise@...>
To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 1:50:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] preferred laserjet printers
DJ Delorie used to post on here a lot. His website is full of great info.
http://www.delorie.com/electronics/laminator/
Most "stock" laminators are not hot enough. Some have been successful with
lots of passes while some have made custom controllers. The issue a lot of
people have is that right when it's done heating most laminators turn off
the element until it gets to a threshold then it heats back up. Instead of
using a slightly more complicated controller to get a nice steady
temperature. It is possible to melt your laminator but a lot of people have
had good luck with the gbc personal series laminators.
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Randy S. <rj3819@...> wrote:
> Thanks Bob ..
> I was trying to research the HP toners for melting temp .. doesnt seem to
> be
> readily published.
> I did find this however..
>
> ""The HP 06A Black LaserJet Toner Cartridge is ideal for business or home
> users
> who need professional-quality laser output. It is designed together to
> work
> together with the HP LaserJet 5L and 6L series Printers, and the HP
> LaserJet
> 3100 and 3150 All-in-Ones. The special low-melt mechanism means lower
> temperatures for less energy waste and greater productivity. Average
> cartridge
> yields 2500 standard pages. Declared yield value in accordance with
> ISO/IEC
> 19752. ""
>
> So a good question might be if the 5L and 6L printers are being used with
> success ? If so .. perhaps printers with thes 06A cartridge might be a good
> choice ?
>
>
> Randy
>
>
>
--
Erik L. Knise
Pacific Shipping Company
Seattle, WA
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2011-02-18 by DJ Delorie
Erik Knise <elknise@...> writes: > DJ Delorie used to post on here a lot. His website is full of great info. > http://www.delorie.com/electronics/laminator/ I'm still here, just haven't had much to say. I got a new laser printer (HP 3600n) that doesn't seem to stick as well as the 2550n at the same temperature. I'll probably have to re-test its toner - I got the toner off eBay, might not be HP. I was thinking about doing some tests with a transparency - temperature, number of passes, see if I can find the temperatures for plasticity and melting. At least you can see through transparencies :-) Overall, I've been sticking with UV film instead. More steps, but a LOT more reliable. Oh - I found out how to put 1/16" PCB through a 1/32" laminator reliably. Tape it to a sheet of paper. Once the paper is pulled into the laminator, the PCB is gently pulled in along with it. I laminate my UV films this way. Also, I'm very happy with using 28 gauge brass wire in a 13.5 mil hole for vias. Brass is stiff enough to not bend, and friction holds it in place while you solder. Also, the temperature control hack for the laminator was WORTH IT!! :-)