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For those of you in Silicon Valley

For those of you in Silicon Valley

2003-09-18 by Neal Greenberg

We still have some openings  If interested let me know

Neal.greenberg@...




     Hello:
            We are ready to bring our SchmartBOARD prototyping tool to
market. This patented product will drastically reduce the cost and time
involved in taking an electronic schematic and turning it into a working
prototype. WE WANT YOU TO HAVE A FREE COMBINATION PACK


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                  Choose Board______________________________Add
Components_________________________Connect Boards Together
                  We are having an event on October 9th in Milpitas. We will
have two sessions for 50 people at each. You will see a 30 minute
demonstration, and leave with a free combination pack. If you'd like to
come, please let us know if you'd like 12:00 or 1:00

                  Please sign up now, because we are limited to 100 people.
30 spots are still open.

                  Time Slot Preferred, 12:00 or 1:00:

                  Name:

                  Company:

                  Title:

                  e-mail:

                  Phone:



                  www.schmartboard.com

                  Click here to read more about Schmartboard

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            Remember, every attendee who has pre-registered will leave with
a free Schmartboard combination pack. ($50 value)

            Sincerely,
            --The Team at Schmartboard




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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] For those of you in Silicon Valley

2003-09-18 by Markus Zingg

>This patented product ....

May I ask you what the patent number is?

Markus
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Re: For those of you in Silicon Valley

2003-09-18 by wheedal99

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Neal Greenberg" 

"Look Schmart,
Be The Envy
Of Your 'Freinds'"

--Spell checkers never hurt when you are trying to publicly sell 
something.  Maybe a shorter ad email would be less obtrusive?

Re: For those of you in Silicon Valley

2003-09-19 by Steve

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "wheedal99" <wheedal@h...> wrote:
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Neal Greenberg" 
> 
> "Look Schmart,
> Be The Envy
> Of Your 'Freinds'"
> 
> --Spell checkers never hurt when you are trying to publicly sell 
> something.  Maybe a shorter ad email would be less obtrusive?

I'm not happy that it looks like an automated email. I hope that
doesn't mean they've signed the list address up to a newsletter.

I don't see where it says the sentence above, though. If you are
refering to the spelling of "Schmart", I'm sure that was intentional.
Just try and get a trademark on "Smartboard".

Steve

Re: For those of you in Silicon Valley

2003-09-19 by Steve

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <alienrelics@y...> wrote:
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "wheedal99" <wheedal@h...> wrote:
> > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Neal Greenberg" 
> > 
> > "Look Schmart,
> > Be The Envy
> > Of Your 'Freinds'"
> > 
> > --Spell checkers never hurt when you are trying to publicly sell 
> > something.  Maybe a shorter ad email would be less obtrusive?

Ah, I see it now, on the Products page of their site.

:') Kind of funny, how often I see mis-spellings on professional websites.

But what do you think of what they are selling?

Steve

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: For those of you in Silicon Valley

2003-09-19 by Stefan Trethan

On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 14:27:19 -0000, Steve <alienrelics@...> wrote:

> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <alienrelics@y...> wrote:
>> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "wheedal99" <wheedal@h...> wrote:
>> > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Neal Greenberg" > > "Look 
>> Schmart,
>> > Be The Envy
>> > Of Your 'Freinds'"
>> > > --Spell checkers never hurt when you are trying to publicly sell > 
>> something.  Maybe a shorter ad email would be less obtrusive?
>
> Ah, I see it now, on the Products page of their site.
>
> :') Kind of funny, how often I see mis-spellings on professional 
> websites.
>
> But what do you think of what they are selling?
>
> Steve
>
>
i think these are simply breadboards.
from what they show on the page and what the pdfs show it are breadboards 
with "some pins connected".
i don't think the wiring work would be less than with strip board and i 
don't think their traces are easily to break.

if you take the vast variety of components and the even more possibilities 
how to connect them together to get different
functionality i think the only way is doing it wire by wire.


There are lots of breadboards on the market which are "prewired", for smd, 
for throughhole ics etc.
I see nothing new and solwly i think this is not a new invention but only 
an ad for something everyone kows.

But maybe for these one or two ic prototypes where you want to botch 
something together with only few
other components it may be a nice pre-cut breadboard...

i first thought these boards have connectors on the edge to interconnect 
them - but now i am not sure about that..

my opinion is - without having it seen in real life - this may not be 
schmart enough to make me import it.
and, for the $50 or less they say you can have a pcb made....

st

but maybe we can discuss other ways of "schmart" prototyping, i personnaly 
love the pinboard. you simply put in the ics and some wires and can 
instantly see if you idea works.
i have buit a power supply below a big pinboard which is very convenient, 
and have some scope and meter probes
which plug into the holes (you know not widening/damaging them like the 
standard scope probe tip).
I like it much more than soldering.. but you have to keep in mind that it 
is not useful for high frequency.
and NEVER plug a component in which obviuosly has too thick legs.
I have several other (smaller) pinboards where a prototype can reside on 
until i find the time to make a pcb / complete the
experimenting. Please tell me your favourite experimenting methods (quick, 
quick, before we get all converted to schmartboards ;-) )

Re: For those of you in Silicon Valley

2003-09-19 by Dave Mucha

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Markus Zingg <m.zingg@n...> 
wrote:
> >This patented product ....
> 
> May I ask you what the patent number is?
> 
> Markus


You may ask, but it seems like no one is home.
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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: For those of you in Silicon Valley

2003-09-19 by Markus Zingg

>--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Markus Zingg <m.zingg@n...> 
>wrote:
>> >This patented product ....
>> 
>> May I ask you what the patent number is?
>> 
>> Markus
>
>
>You may ask, but it seems like no one is home.

Well, seems so, but let's wait some more cause maybe they're just out
for a party :)

Markus

Re: For those of you in Silicon Valley

2003-09-20 by wheedal99

--- In Homebrew_PCBs"Steve" <alienrelics@y...> .
> 
> :') Kind of funny, how often I see mis-spellings on professional 
websites.

Yeh, but the in this context I thought it was priceless --
Look "schmart" and mispell the rest...

> But what do you think of what they are selling?

That was a mystery to me too.  The site didn't really give any 
details as to why this new "technology" was compelling to use.  They 
mentioned something like Legos and breadboarding, but I didn't see 
any real novelty to linking protoboards together.  It also didn't 
seem that the linkages where conductive, but merely a physical 
connection to the other board.  Not sure where the cost savings would 
come about using something like this...  Oh well, maybe at their 
seminars they'll explain it better?  :')

Re: For those of you in Silicon Valley

2003-10-10 by Neal Greenberg

I must apologize to all of you.  I missed the questions and comments 
about the Schmartboard product posted on 9/18 and 9/19.  I'd also 
like to let you know that I signed up for this group, not to just 
post advertisements for this new product, but also to gauge your 
conversations and get a better idea of what is happening out there so 
that we can decide what to design in the future.

In reponse to the former posts:

The product is different that others because it allows one to create 
cicruit blocks with few jumpers, and then connect the blocks together 
like "Legos".

The product is patent pending(Fenwick and West are out patent 
attorneys).  We are shipping only in the US.  International 
distribution will be set up in 2004.  

Thank you in advance for your understanding

Neal

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