Homebrew PCBs

Hello Everyone,

Been lurking for awhile and I came across some info that you all may not be 
aware of.  DynaArt
http://www.dynaart.com has a new thermal roller laminator for $149.  They 
say that it works better than their old $399 unit.  They also have supplies 
for silver plating, silkscreen and green protective covering now in there 
product line.  Also decals making materials for those interested.

I do not work for them, only decided to visit their web site and saw MAJOR 
Changes to their product line which will bring the price of TT down to a 
more acceptable level.

JFYI,
Brian

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Sorry, still haven't found time to test Future in that Epson 800.

However: I mentioned before the possibility of using those wax ribbon
CD printers for this. Casio now makes a model that costs only $90.
Maybe all it would take is a hack of the driver (Linux, anyone?) and a
slight modification of the tray to allow printing without a hole in
the center.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=469164&sku=C104-4000%20P

Failing that, cut your PCBs out in the shape of a CD. ;') Then you
could automate it with a stack fed into one of the autofeeder CD
thermal printers. Of course, that becomes so expensive there are other
better options.

Steve Greenfield

In article <bjd67t+pa18@...>,
   Steve <alienrelics@...> wrote:
> Failing that, cut your PCBs out in the shape of a CD. ;') Then you
> could automate it with a stack fed into one of the autofeeder CD
> thermal printers. Of course, that becomes so expensive there are other
> better options.

ROTFL    :-)))

Stuart.

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101 uses for a Pentium: No1 - A slow cooker.

Actually, I've tried it with a citizen printiva 700.  Didn't work 
very well.  The copper is a huge heatsink and I couldn't get the 
printhead hot enough to transfer the wax.  Maybe preheating the 
copper clad would have helped.  Anyway seemed to be a bust with that 
one anyway (for me).  I'm certainly not discouraging anyone else from 
trying.  :')
Heck, anyone near Pocatello, ID USA is welcome to take this one and 
try to make it work...  hehe...  (no, I won't mail it...)
-Dal


> However: I mentioned before the possibility of using those wax 
ribbon
> CD printers for this. Casio now makes a model that costs only $90.
> Maybe all it would take is a hack of the driver (Linux, anyone?) 
and a
> slight modification of the tray to allow printing without a hole in
> the center.

Of course, that print head is designed for paper which would require
very little heat.

The CD printers are, of course, designed for something thicker but
still plastic. You bring up a good point about copper, it is a better
heat sink than aluminum.

If I were closer (Tacoma, WA) I'd run right over there. That little
baby can make waterproof, sun safe bumper stickers. ;')

Steve Greenfield

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "wheedal99" <wheedal@h...> wrote:

> Actually, I've tried it with a citizen printiva 700.  Didn't work 
> very well.  The copper is a huge heatsink and I couldn't get the 
> printhead hot enough to transfer the wax.  Maybe preheating the 
> copper clad would have helped.  Anyway seemed to be a bust with that 
> one anyway (for me).  I'm certainly not discouraging anyone else from 
> trying.  :')
> Heck, anyone near Pocatello, ID USA is welcome to take this one and 
> try to make it work...  hehe...  (no, I won't mail it...)
> -Dal
> 
> 
> > However: I mentioned before the possibility of using those wax 
> ribbon
> > CD printers for this. Casio now makes a model that costs only $90.
> > Maybe all it would take is a hack of the driver (Linux, anyone?) 
> and a
> > slight modification of the tray to allow printing without a hole in
> > the center.

Well, My father actually got one when I showed him this (he has a 
home recording studio and doesn't like the CD's his epson inkjet 
based CD printer makes him use...).  Its a pretty silly little unit, 
but it does what it was intended for.  The device has a fixed 
carriage and the print head only makes one pass, the user is then 
expected to manually rotate the disc and let it make another pass for 
printing on the bottom of the CD.  The printing surface is 
approx .75" x 3"; so if you only make very tiny circuit boards and at 
fairly coarse resolutions (on the order of 200-300dpi from the looks 
of it); this may be the very thing you are looking for...  :')  It is 
cheap and does a good job doing simple labling on CD's though...
-Dal

--- In Homebrew_PCBs"Steve" <alienrelics@y...> 
> However: I mentioned before the possibility of using those wax 
ribbon
> CD printers for this. Casio now makes a model that costs only $90.
> Maybe all it would take is a hack of the driver (Linux, anyone?) 
and a
> slight modification of the tray to allow printing without a hole in
> the center.

On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 16:21:13 -0000, wheedal99 <wheedal@...> 
wrote:

> Well, My father actually got one when I showed him this (he has a home 
> recording studio and doesn't like the CD's his epson inkjet based CD 
> printer makes him use...).  Its a pretty silly little unit, but it does 
> what it was intended for.  The device has a fixed carriage and the print 
> head only makes one pass, the user is then expected to manually rotate 
> the disc and let it make another pass for printing on the bottom of the 
> CD.  The printing surface is approx .75" x 3"; so if you only make very 
> tiny circuit boards and at fairly coarse resolutions (on the order of 
> 200-300dpi from the looks of it); this may be the very thing you are 
> looking for...  :')  It is cheap and does a good job doing simple labling 
> on CD's though...
> -Dal
>
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs"Steve" <alienrelics@y...>
>> However: I mentioned before the possibility of using those wax
> ribbon
>> CD printers for this. Casio now makes a model that costs only $90.
>> Maybe all it would take is a hack of the driver (Linux, anyone?)
> and a
>> slight modification of the tray to allow printing without a hole in
>> the center.
>
>
I think last issue of local pc magazine tested this cd printer..

is it black only?

they described the resolution being very low.

but it uses a tape which is hotmelt to the cd, not sure if it would work 
with copper.
(this was discussed, copper is harder to heat).

st

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There are other color ribbons.  Only one can be used at a time 
though.  I thought I was being ironic; .75" x 3 " isn't a very usable 
size.  I can try to do copper clad in it sometime though if you 
really think you'd be interested...  Resolution is probably lower 
than we'd like as well.

Plenty good enough for what it is designed.

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Stefan Trethan 
> I think last issue of local pc magazine tested this cd printer..
> 
> is it black only?
> 
> they described the resolution being very low.
> 
> but it uses a tape which is hotmelt to the cd, not sure if it would 
work 

> with copper.
> (this was discussed, copper is harder to heat).
>