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Is this Eagle .sch or Diptrace .sch, or some other program?

Thank you, btw, for letting us in on your progress.

Steve Greenfield
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<Sigh> It's bastardized Eagle. I have no patience for drawing schematics the way Eagle wants me to. I just use it as a drawing tool, with no regard for netlists and the like, since I always just hand route my boards, using whatever mixture of ligitimate library objects and hand made footprints works.

I'm not an engineer by trade, though I've done a number of commercial products in a very narrow niche. I'm actually a Veterinarian in private practice, though I do have a couple of other companies that design and sell microcomputer controlled products for Veterinarians. My brothers and father are all engineers, so I come by this naturally.

I'm also probably older than anyone on the list.

Mark


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>From: Steve Greenfield <alienrelics@...>
>Sent: May 21, 2010 5:22 PM
>To: Homebrew_PCBs Mailing List <homebrew_pcbs@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] DLP files - what format?
>
>Is this Eagle .sch or Diptrace .sch, or some other program?
>
>Thank you, btw, for letting us in on your progress.
>
> Steve Greenfield
>Electronic Engineering Technician AT
>Electronic Technician 20+ years
>CET Computers and Consumer Electronics
>IPC-A-610D CIS Specialist
>http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevenjgreenfield
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On 21/05/2010 22:59, mlerman@... wrote:

> <Sigh> It's bastardized Eagle. I have no patience for drawing schematics the way Eagle wants me to. I just use it as a drawing tool, with no regard for netlists and the like, since I always just hand route my boards, using whatever mixture of ligitimate library objects and hand made footprints works.
>
> I'm not an engineer by trade, though I've done a number of commercial products in a very narrow niche. I'm actually a Veterinarian in private practice, though I do have a couple of other companies that design and sell microcomputer controlled products for Veterinarians. My brothers and father are all engineers, so I come by this naturally.
>
> I'm also probably older than anyone on the list.

I'm 68.

Leon
--
Leon Heller
G1HSM

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, mlerman@... wrote:

>
> <Sigh> It's bastardized Eagle. I have no patience for drawing schematics the way Eagle wants me to. I just use it as a drawing tool, with no regard for netlists and the like, since I always just hand route my boards, using whatever mixture of ligitimate library objects and hand made footprints works.
>
> I'm not an engineer by trade, though I've done a number of commercial products in a very narrow niche. I'm actually a Veterinarian in private practice, though I do have a couple of other companies that design and sell microcomputer controlled products for Veterinarians. My brothers and father are all engineers, so I come by this naturally.
>
> I'm also probably older than anyone on the list.
>
> Mark
>

It took me quite a few failed attempts to wrap my head around the whole schematic/netlist/PCB concept. I have to say though, once I got the hang of it, things started going SO much more smoothly. Once you have more than a small handful of parts, it starts to get very difficult to remember what all connects to what and the ratsnest makes it easy to tell. Time taken now to get over that hurdle will save much more time later.

Eagle was one of the first packages I tried and at the time it seemed horrible. I'm sure if I went back to it now it would be ok, but there are other less limited packages out there. ExpressPCB is still the one I'd recommend cutting one's teeth on, but there are better choices once you get going.

> also probably older than anyone on the list.

.......snip

> I'm 68.
>
> Leon

Lord Leon - you're older than dirt!!! Since I just turned 63 as of this May, I'm a youngster {grinning}

Ken H>

> also probably older than anyone on the list.

.......snip

> I'm 68.
>
> Leon

Lord Leon - you're older than dirt!!! Since I just turned 63 as of this May, I'm a youngster {grinning}

Ken H>

I'm dirtier than Leon ... I ran past 70 last year ...
I also have disassembled my E260D all the way down and am about to cut the plastic paper platform ...
Does it make sense to remove the entire paper platform and cut it with my table saw?
Mark, is there room to just lower the cut portion of the paper platform and still use the built-in sensors ...
Will a programed MPU plus PCB be available ? ... I have downloaded ALL 115 mega-bytes of the IDE
... seems to be over kill just to load the boot loader and short program for the AtTiny15 ...
Jim KI6MZ


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Hi young fellow.. I'll keep shovelling the path for you to follow. I'm 72 and still going strong.. Check out my web page and you get a glimpse of what keeps me active.


Harvey L. McRae,
838 McKenzie Rd.,
Kelowna, BC. V1X2B3,
www.webs.com/harriscreekcentral

----- Original Message -----
From: Leon Heller
To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] DLP files - what format?



On 21/05/2010 22:59, mlerman@... wrote:
> <Sigh> It's bastardized Eagle. I have no patience for drawing schematics the way Eagle wants me to. I just use it as a drawing tool, with no regard for netlists and the like, since I always just hand route my boards, using whatever mixture of ligitimate library objects and hand made footprints works.
>
> I'm not an engineer by trade, though I've done a number of commercial products in a very narrow niche. I'm actually a Veterinarian in private practice, though I do have a couple of other companies that design and sell microcomputer controlled products for Veterinarians. My brothers and father are all engineers, so I come by this naturally.
>
> I'm also probably older than anyone on the list.

I'm 68.

Leon
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G1HSM





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Hi Jim,

I guess you could remove the platform and cut it on a table saw, but
you would have to do quite a bit more disassembling. I thought it was
going to be much harder to cut the platform than it really was with
the dremel, but it might indeed be faster to take the platform out vs
masking and cleaning up after the cut. Since I don't have a table
saw, I did it my way. Your way would be much neater and more
professional looking - go for it!

With regard to the sensors, you could probably lower the center of
the platform and have the mpfs and the pis work, but you would need
to add the exit sensor somewhere since it is on the back of the fuser
and cannot be used in this position. In fact the mpfs and the pis
could be mounted on the front of the printer and work via notches in
the carrier, although I would be careful about notches hanging up on things.

I think you should bite the bullet and use the mcu. The Atmel Studio4
is free, the ATAVRISP2 in circuit programmer is $35 from Digikey, and
you're all set.

I can send you a programmed board, though it will not be able to do
ds boards since I'm still working on that. If you want one, contact
me off list with your address - it should be about $5 USD which you
can pay via Paypal or mo or check, whichever is easier for you.

Mark









At 09:22 PM 5/21/2010, you wrote:

> > also probably older than anyone on the list.
>
>.......snip
> > I'm 68.
> >
> > Leon
>
>Lord Leon - you're older than dirt!!! Since I just turned 63 as of
>this May, I'm a youngster {grinning}
>
>Ken H>
>
>I'm dirtier than Leon ... I ran past 70 last year ...
>I also have disassembled my E260D all the way down and am about to
>cut the plastic paper platform ...
>Does it make sense to remove the entire paper platform and cut it
>with my table saw?
>Mark, is there room to just lower the cut portion of the paper
>platform and still use the built-in sensors ...
>Will a programed MPU plus PCB be available ? ... I have downloaded
>ALL 115 mega-bytes of the IDE
>... seems to be over kill just to load the boot loader and short
>program for the AtTiny15 ...
>Jim KI6MZ
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Links, Files, and Photos:
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBsYahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Links, Files, and Photos:
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBsYahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

>
>I'm also probably older than anyone on the list.
>
>Mark

I'm 66.
Cristian

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Well, this is certainly interesting - I'm also 66.

Mark

At 07:33 AM 5/22/2010, you wrote:

> >
> >I'm also probably older than anyone on the list.
> >
> >Mark
>
>I'm 66.
>Cristian
>
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>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Links, Files, and Photos:
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>
>
>

This sure is a good group - I like being the "Baby" of the bunch..... at 63 <:)

Ken H>

> Well, this is certainly interesting - I'm also 66.
>

...snip

> > >
> > >I'm also probably older than anyone on the list.
> > >
> > >Mark

...snip

> >I'm 66.
> >Cristian

I think I may be the baby - 58 on the 19th of this month.

Donald.
----- "sailingto" <sailingtoo@...> wrote:

> This sure is a good group - I like being the "Baby" of the bunch.....
> at 63 <:)
>
> Ken H>
>
> > Well, this is certainly interesting - I'm also 66.
> >
> ...snip
> > > >
> > > >I'm also probably older than anyone on the list.
> > > >
> > > >Mark
> ...snip
> > >I'm 66.
> > >Cristian
>

O.K. all you kids...You better recpect your elders.....Ha Ha// Does this mean that there is no one out there that can beat my 72 yrs.. Well, I am thankful that I am only as old as I feel, and right now I'm feelin great..

Cheers.

Harvey L. McRae,
838 McKenzie Rd.,
Kelowna, BC. V1X2B3,
www.webs.com/harriscreekcentral

----- Original Message -----
From: Donald H Locker
To: Homebrew PCBs
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: DLP files - what format?



I think I may be the baby - 58 on the 19th of this month.

Donald.
----- "sailingto" <sailingtoo@...> wrote:

> This sure is a good group - I like being the "Baby" of the bunch.....
> at 63 <:)
>
> Ken H>
>
> > Well, this is certainly interesting - I'm also 66.
> >
> ...snip
> > > >
> > > >I'm also probably older than anyone on the list.
> > > >
> > > >Mark
> ...snip
> > >I'm 66.
> > >Cristian
>





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I’ll wear that dubious honor for the moment @73 years young (until someone more ‘experienced’ speaks up)

Roger



From: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Harvey L. McRae
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 06:02
To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: DLP files - what format?





O.K. all you kids...You better recpect your elders.....Ha Ha// Does this mean that there is no one out there that can beat my 72 yrs.. Well, I am thankful that I am only as old as I feel, and right now I'm feelin great..

Cheers.

Harvey L. McRae,
838 McKenzie Rd.,
Kelowna, BC. V1X2B3,
www.webs.com/harriscreekcentral

----- Original Message -----
From: Donald H Locker
To: Homebrew PCBs
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: DLP files - what format?

I think I may be the baby - 58 on the 19th of this month.

Donald.
----- "sailingto" <sailingtoo@... <mailto:sailingtoo%40gmail.com> > wrote:

> This sure is a good group - I like being the "Baby" of the bunch.....
> at 63 <:)
>
> Ken H>
>
> > Well, this is certainly interesting - I'm also 66.
> >
> ...snip
> > > >
> > > >I'm also probably older than anyone on the list.
> > > >
> > > >Mark
> ...snip
> > >I'm 66.
> > >Cristian
>

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I must be the old man of the group.

Derward Myrick KD5WWI

----- Original Message -----
From: Donald H Locker
To: Homebrew PCBs
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: DLP files - what format?



I think I may be the baby - 58 on the 19th of this month.

Donald.
----- "sailingto" <sailingtoo@...> wrote:

> This sure is a good group - I like being the "Baby" of the bunch.....
> at 63 <:)
>
> Ken H>




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This is a bit worrying i'm 64 are there any real youngsters in this group ??

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Roger Blair" <Roger.Blair@...> wrote:
>
> I’ll wear that dubious honor for the moment @73 years young (until someone more ‘experienced’ speaks up)
>
> Roger
>
>
>
> From: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Harvey L. McRae
> Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 06:02
> To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: DLP files - what format?
>
>
>
>
>
> O.K. all you kids...You better recpect your elders.....Ha Ha// Does this mean that there is no one out there that can beat my 72 yrs.. Well, I am thankful that I am only as old as I feel, and right now I'm feelin great..
>
> Cheers.
>
> Harvey L. McRae,
> 838 McKenzie Rd.,
> Kelowna, BC. V1X2B3,
> www.webs.com/harriscreekcentral
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Donald H Locker
> To: Homebrew PCBs
> Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 4:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: DLP files - what format?
>
> I think I may be the baby - 58 on the 19th of this month.
>
> Donald.
> ----- "sailingto" <sailingtoo@... <mailto:sailingtoo%40gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> > This sure is a good group - I like being the "Baby" of the bunch.....
> > at 63 <:)
> >
> > Ken H>
> >
> > > Well, this is certainly interesting - I'm also 66.
> > >
> > ...snip
> > > > >
> > > > >I'm also probably older than anyone on the list.
> > > > >
> > > > >Mark
> > ...snip
> > > >I'm 66.
> > > >Cristian
> >
>
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48.

I know there are some 20-somethings here.

Steve Greenfield

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Donald H Locker <dhlocker@...> wrote:
>
> I think I may be the baby - 58 on the 19th of this month.
>
> Donald.
> ----- "sailingto" <sailingtoo@...> wrote:
>
> > This sure is a good group - I like being the "Baby" of the bunch.....
> > at 63 <:)
> >
> > Ken H>
> >
> > > Well, this is certainly interesting - I'm also 66.
> > >
> > ...snip
> > > > >
> > > > >I'm also probably older than anyone on the list.
> > > > >
> > > > >Mark
> > ...snip
> > > >I'm 66.
> > > >Cristian
> >
>

Is 42 young enought :-)

Mike R pravi:

> This is a bit worrying i'm 64 are there any real youngsters in this group ??
>
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Roger Blair" <Roger.Blair@...> wrote:
>
>> I’ll wear that dubious honor for the moment @73 years young (until someone more ‘experienced’ speaks up)
>>
>> Roger
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Harvey L. McRae
>> Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 06:02
>> To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: DLP files - what format?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> O.K. all you kids...You better recpect your elders.....Ha Ha// Does this mean that there is no one out there that can beat my 72 yrs.. Well, I am thankful that I am only as old as I feel, and right now I'm feelin great..
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>> Harvey L. McRae,
>> 838 McKenzie Rd.,
>> Kelowna, BC. V1X2B3,
>> www.webs.com/harriscreekcentral
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Donald H Locker
>> To: Homebrew PCBs
>> Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 4:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: DLP files - what format?
>>
>> I think I may be the baby - 58 on the 19th of this month.
>>
>> Donald.
>> ----- "sailingto" <sailingtoo@... <mailto:sailingtoo%40gmail.com> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>> This sure is a good group - I like being the "Baby" of the bunch.....
>>> at 63 <:)
>>>
>>> Ken H>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Well, this is certainly interesting - I'm also 66.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> ...snip
>>>
>>>>>> I'm also probably older than anyone on the list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>
>>> ...snip
>>>
>>>>> I'm 66.
>>>>> Cristian
>>>>>
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> I know there are some 20-somethings here.
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> Steve Greenfield

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I said I was the oldest, see I forgot to tell my age.
I am 78.

Derward Myrick KD5WWI

----- Original Message -----
From: Derward Myrick
To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Derward Myrick
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 6:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: DLP files - what format?



I must be the old man of the group.

Derward Myrick KD5WWI

----- Original Message -----
From: Donald H Locker
To: Homebrew PCBs
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: DLP files - what format?

I think I may be the baby - 58 on the 19th of this month.

Donald.
----- "sailingto" <sailingtoo@...> wrote:

> This sure is a good group - I like being the "Baby" of the bunch.....
> at 63 <:)
>
> Ken H>

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Now your making me feel young all over again.. Thanks for leading the way.


Harvey L. McRae,
838 McKenzie Rd.,
Kelowna, BC. V1X2B3,
www.webs.com/harriscreekcentral

----- Original Message -----
From: Derward Myrick
To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: DLP files - what format?



I said I was the oldest, see I forgot to tell my age.
I am 78.

Derward Myrick KD5WWI

----- Original Message -----
From: Derward Myrick
To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Derward Myrick
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 6:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: DLP files - what format?

I must be the old man of the group.

Derward Myrick KD5WWI

----- Original Message -----
From: Donald H Locker
To: Homebrew PCBs
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: DLP files - what format?

I think I may be the baby - 58 on the 19th of this month.

Donald.
----- "sailingto" <sailingtoo@...> wrote:

> This sure is a good group - I like being the "Baby" of the bunch.....
> at 63 <:)
>
> Ken H>

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Just hit 30 !

Best Regards,
Steve Maroney
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-----Original Message-----
From: "alienrelics" <alienrelics@...>
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 15:41:45
To: <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: DLP files - what format?

48.

I know there are some 20-somethings here.

Steve Greenfield

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Donald H Locker <dhlocker@...> wrote:
>
> I think I may be the baby - 58 on the 19th of this month.
>
> Donald.
> ----- "sailingto" <sailingtoo@...> wrote:
>
> > This sure is a good group - I like being the "Baby" of the bunch.....
> > at 63 <:)
> >
> > Ken H>
> >
> > > Well, this is certainly interesting - I'm also 66.
> > >
> > ...snip
> > > > >
> > > > >I'm also probably older than anyone on the list.
> > > > >
> > > > >Mark
> > ...snip
> > > >I'm 66.
> > > >Cristian
> >
>





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I'm 33


Sent from my iPhone

On May 23, 2010, at 11:11 AM, "Mike R" <mikerowe29@...> wrote:

> This is a bit worrying i'm 64 are there any real youngsters in this
> group ??
>
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Roger Blair"
> <Roger.Blair@...> wrote:
> >
> > I’ll wear that dubious honor for the moment @73 years young
> (until someone more ‘experienced’ speaks up)
> >
> > Roger
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Harvey L. McRae
> > Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 06:02
> > To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: DLP files - what format?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > O.K. all you kids...You better recpect your elders.....Ha Ha//
> Does this mean that there is no one out there that can beat my 72
> yrs.. Well, I am thankful that I am only as old as I feel, and right
> now I'm feelin great..
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > Harvey L. McRae,
> > 838 McKenzie Rd.,
> > Kelowna, BC. V1X2B3,
> > www.webs.com/harriscreekcentral
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Donald H Locker
> > To: Homebrew PCBs
> > Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 4:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: DLP files - what format?
> >
> > I think I may be the baby - 58 on the 19th of this month.
> >
> > Donald.
> > ----- "sailingto" <sailingtoo@... <mailto:sailingtoo%40gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > This sure is a good group - I like being the "Baby" of the
> bunch.....
> > > at 63 <:)
> > >
> > > Ken H>
> > >
> > > > Well, this is certainly interesting - I'm also 66.
> > > >
> > > ...snip
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I'm also probably older than anyone on the list.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Mark
> > > ...snip
> > > > >I'm 66.
> > > > >Cristian
> > >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> > Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2890 - Release Date:
> 05/22/10 11:26:00
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>


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29...no wonder everybody else on the list seems more accomplished at this
than me :)

-Andrew


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "alienrelics" <alienrelics@...> wrote:

>
> 48.
>
> I know there are some 20-somethings here.
>
> Steve Greenfield

51 here

Ben

Very interesting..
People in this group is the "older one".
Seems that older people just like to do (make) something and younger
just to buy.

Slavko

Ben L pravi:

> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "alienrelics" <alienrelics@...> wrote:
>
>> 48.
>>
>> I know there are some 20-somethings here.
>>
>> Steve Greenfield
>>
>
>
> 51 here
>
> Ben
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Links, Files, and Photos:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBsYahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

41

DIY PCB must be a dying art - unless there's a Facebook group we just don't know about.

PG

On 24/05/2010, at 1:11 AM, Mike R wrote:

> This is a bit worrying i'm 64 are there any real youngsters in this group ??
>
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Roger Blair" <Roger.Blair@...> wrote:
> >
> > I’ll wear that dubious honor for the moment @73 years young (until someone more ‘experienced’ speaks up)
> >
> > Roger
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Harvey L. McRae
> > Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 06:02
> > To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: DLP files - what format?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > O.K. all you kids...You better recpect your elders.....Ha Ha// Does this mean that there is no one out there that can beat my 72 yrs.. Well, I am thankful that I am only as old as I feel, and right now I'm feelin great..
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > Harvey L. McRae,
> > 838 McKenzie Rd.,
> > Kelowna, BC. V1X2B3,
> > www.webs.com/harriscreekcentral
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Donald H Locker
> > To: Homebrew PCBs
> > Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 4:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: DLP files - what format?
> >
> > I think I may be the baby - 58 on the 19th of this month.
> >
> > Donald.
> > ----- "sailingto" <sailingtoo@... <mailto:sailingtoo%40gmail.com> > wrote:
> >
> > > This sure is a good group - I like being the "Baby" of the bunch.....
> > > at 63 <:)
> > >
> > > Ken H>
> > >
> > > > Well, this is certainly interesting - I'm also 66.
> > > >
> > > ...snip
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I'm also probably older than anyone on the list.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Mark
> > > ...snip
> > > > >I'm 66.
> > > > >Cristian
> > >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> > Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2890 - Release Date: 05/22/10 11:26:00
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>

Slavko,

Sadly, I agree entirely...the DIY culture is starting to regain a foothold
amongst us young people (Check out makezine.com), but it's still far from
mainstream.

-Andrew

On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 2:35 AM, Slavko Kocjancic <eslavko@...> wrote:

> Very interesting..
> People in this group is the "older one".
> Seems that older people just like to do (make) something and younger
> just to buy.
>


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This is one reason I like to share what I am doing.. In the little clinic I
just put on 9 out of the 9 in attendance had never etched a board. Many had
the idea it was so complicated. Now that they have seen and actually etched
their own little board, I expect to see several trying it on their own. I
sent each of them home with a completed Dual flashing light to use in an
ambulance, police car etc.. Having a working piece of equipment in their
hand will also encourage them to make another.

In fact this morning, I am presenting them with a "Certificate of
Accomplishment" BIG DEAL.....But like we are in this group, we are having
fun in our Model Railroad group, making all kinds of things..

Have a Happy Day, all you young or OLD.

From the 72'er

Harvey L. McRae,
838 McKenzie Rd.,
Kelowna, BC. V1X2B3,
www.webs.com/harriscreekcentral

----- Original Message -----
From: "Piers Goodhew" <piers@...>
To: <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 4:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: DLP files - what format?


41

DIY PCB must be a dying art - unless there's a Facebook group we just don't
know about.

PG

On 24/05/2010, at 1:11 AM, Mike R wrote:

> This is a bit worrying i'm 64 are there any real youngsters in this group
> ??
>
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Roger Blair" <Roger.Blair@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > I’ll wear that dubious honor for the moment @73 years young (until
> > someone more ‘experienced’ speaks up)
> >
> > Roger
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Harvey L. McRae
> > Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 06:02
> > To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: DLP files - what format?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > O.K. all you kids...You better recpect your elders.....Ha Ha// Does this
> > mean that there is no one out there that can beat my 72 yrs.. Well, I am
> > thankful that I am only as old as I feel, and right now I'm feelin
> > great..
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > Harvey L. McRae,
> > 838 McKenzie Rd.,
> > Kelowna, BC. V1X2B3,
> > www.webs.com/harriscreekcentral
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Donald H Locker
> > To: Homebrew PCBs
> > Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 4:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: DLP files - what format?
> >
> > I think I may be the baby - 58 on the 19th of this month.
> >
> > Donald.
> > ----- "sailingto" <sailingtoo@... <mailto:sailingtoo%40gmail.com> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > This sure is a good group - I like being the "Baby" of the bunch.....
> > > at 63 <:)
> > >
> > > Ken H>
> > >
> > > > Well, this is certainly interesting - I'm also 66.
> > > >
> > > ...snip
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I'm also probably older than anyone on the list.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Mark
> > > ...snip
> > > > >I'm 66.
> > > > >Cristian
> > >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> > Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2890 - Release Date: 05/22/10
> > 11:26:00
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>



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