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Pizzaz pizza oven for reflow update

Pizzaz pizza oven for reflow update

2010-03-20 by Henry Liu

Got my oven from Walmart and tried it out.

It works pretty well!

A few points:
-12 minutes was enough to back some test SOICs I put on with some solder
paste from a cold start.
-Because the oven rotates, it is not ideal for heating as the temperature
drops pretty quickly as it leaves the heating zone.
-I tried a second set when I used 5 minutes heating on the rotating oven and
30 seconds heating with the hot air gun and it was perfect.
-The rotating design ensures even heating
-The open design of the pizza oven makes it very easy to adjust parts while
they are heating.
-The temperature is not high enough to melt the PCB even with the dual
heating modes enabled.  Next time I will watch it with my infrared
thermometer.
-I think the temperature is perfect for preheating but just slightly lower
than needed for leader solder paste.  This lower temperature requires more
than double the time to bake it alone as it does with some extra help from a
hot air gun.

In summary, the oven makes a perfect cheap preheating platform but I still
recommend a hot air gun to touch up trouble zones.


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Re: Pizzaz pizza oven for reflow update

2010-03-21 by Henry Liu

I have played with this more.

The original Pizzaz pizza oven comes with a 12" or so pizza pan that spins
around.

To know if there is a pizza pan on top, the unit has a small push down
interlock switch on the top.  The motor turns with a small rotating motor
close to the front by using a shaft protrusion.

I did some modifications and now it works even better!

What I did was I put a 8"x6"x1/4" thick piece of aluminum plate on top of
the interlock but not cover the motor shaft protrusion.  Now the unit turns
on but doesn't rotate.  Also the entire plate is between the top and bottom
elements now.

The unit works great in this mode.  I did more tests from a COLD start and
it reflows in 4:30 seconds - no hot air gun needed.  There is easily enough
working space underneath to push parts around that moved out of place.

The unit is compact and easy to use.  Great value at $45.  It produces 1250W
of heating power through two heating elements and also has circulating fan
that pushes hot down onto the heating zone.  Previously with the spinning
mechanism, it would not stay on one place very well.  The power is perfect
so that it reflows but doesn't melt the board.

Previously I had a GE hot plate but this thing is 100x better.  The GE unit
I used twice and never tried it again.  This unit I will use everytime for
my small prototypes.

Henry


On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Henry Liu <henryjliu@...> wrote:

> Got my oven from Walmart and tried it out.
>
> It works pretty well!
>
> A few points:
> -12 minutes was enough to back some test SOICs I put on with some solder
> paste from a cold start.
> -Because the oven rotates, it is not ideal for heating as the temperature
> drops pretty quickly as it leaves the heating zone.
> -I tried a second set when I used 5 minutes heating on the rotating oven
> and 30 seconds heating with the hot air gun and it was perfect.
> -The rotating design ensures even heating
> -The open design of the pizza oven makes it very easy to adjust parts while
> they are heating.
> -The temperature is not high enough to melt the PCB even with the dual
> heating modes enabled.  Next time I will watch it with my infrared
> thermometer.
> -I think the temperature is perfect for preheating but just slightly lower
> than needed for leader solder paste.  This lower temperature requires more
> than double the time to bake it alone as it does with some extra help from a
> hot air gun.
>
> In summary, the oven makes a perfect cheap preheating platform but I still
> recommend a hot air gun to touch up trouble zones.
>
>
>


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Re: Pizzaz pizza oven for reflow update

2010-05-01 by Henry Liu

Just another update: I've had this pizzaz pizza oven for over a month
and I'm still very happy with it.

This device I can stick my pcb on the plate and turn the dial to 8
minutes then come back 10-15 minutes later and the board is done
perfectly every time and the machine has cooled down.  I have done
over 20 prototype boards and each time it is set the dial to 8minutes
from a cold start and walk away.  The temperature is perfect and none
of the plastic parts melt yet even big 470uF smd caps get solder
perfectly.  I can also watch the reflow process and push parts around
if something is out of alignment with my dental pick.

For $45 it is the best thing I bought since my $99 hot air gun station for PCBs.

Search on walmart or amazon.com to get one yourself.  I did replace
the rotating plate with a solid 1/4" of aluminum that I had laying
around.
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On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Henry Liu <henryjliu@...> wrote:
> I have played with this more.
> The original Pizzaz pizza oven comes with a 12" or so pizza pan that spins
> around.
> To know if there is a pizza pan on top, the unit has a small push down
> interlock switch on the top.  The motor turns with a small rotating motor
> close to the front by using a shaft protrusion.
> I did some modifications and now it works even better!
> What I did was I put a 8"x6"x1/4" thick piece of aluminum plate on top of
> the interlock but not cover the motor shaft protrusion.  Now the unit turns
> on but doesn't rotate.  Also the entire plate is between the top and bottom
> elements now.
> The unit works great in this mode.  I did more tests from a COLD start and
> it reflows in 4:30 seconds - no hot air gun needed.  There is easily enough
> working space underneath to push parts around that moved out of place.
> The unit is compact and easy to use.  Great value at $45.  It produces 1250W
> of heating power through two heating elements and also has circulating fan
> that pushes hot down onto the heating zone.  Previously with the spinning
> mechanism, it would not stay on one place very well.  The power is perfect
> so that it reflows but doesn't melt the board.
> Previously I had a GE hot plate but this thing is 100x better.  The GE unit
> I used twice and never tried it again.  This unit I will use everytime for
> my small prototypes.
> Henry
>

Re: Pizzaz pizza oven for reflow update

2010-05-01 by ae5ew

What brand and model is it?  Likely a large variance between brands and models.  At what temperature is it heating at? Max?  Charles  AE5EW

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Henry Liu <henryjliu@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> Just another update: I've had this pizzaz pizza oven for over a month
> and I'm still very happy with it.
> 
> This device I can stick my pcb on the plate and turn the dial to 8
> minutes then come back 10-15 minutes later and the board is done
> perfectly every time and the machine has cooled down.  I have done
> over 20 prototype boards and each time it is set the dial to 8minutes
> from a cold start and walk away.  The temperature is perfect and none
> of the plastic parts melt yet even big 470uF smd caps get solder
> perfectly.  I can also watch the reflow process and push parts around
> if something is out of alignment with my dental pick.
> 
> For $45 it is the best thing I bought since my $99 hot air gun station for PCBs.
> 
> Search on walmart or amazon.com to get one yourself.  I did replace
> the rotating plate with a solid 1/4" of aluminum that I had laying
> around.
> 
> On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Henry Liu <henryjliu@...> wrote:
> > I have played with this more.
> > The original Pizzaz pizza oven comes with a 12" or so pizza pan that spins
> > around.
> > To know if there is a pizza pan on top, the unit has a small push down
> > interlock switch on the top.  The motor turns with a small rotating motor
> > close to the front by using a shaft protrusion.
> > I did some modifications and now it works even better!
> > What I did was I put a 8"x6"x1/4" thick piece of aluminum plate on top of
> > the interlock but not cover the motor shaft protrusion.  Now the unit turns
> > on but doesn't rotate.  Also the entire plate is between the top and bottom
> > elements now.
> > The unit works great in this mode.  I did more tests from a COLD start and
> > it reflows in 4:30 seconds - no hot air gun needed.  There is easily enough
> > working space underneath to push parts around that moved out of place.
> > The unit is compact and easy to use.  Great value at $45.  It produces 1250W
> > of heating power through two heating elements and also has circulating fan
> > that pushes hot down onto the heating zone.  Previously with the spinning
> > mechanism, it would not stay on one place very well.  The power is perfect
> > so that it reflows but doesn't melt the board.
> > Previously I had a GE hot plate but this thing is 100x better.  The GE unit
> > I used twice and never tried it again.  This unit I will use everytime for
> > my small prototypes.
> > Henry
> >
>

Re: Pizzaz pizza oven for reflow update

2010-06-16 by morarcalin

I think it is this one - http://wallmart.com/ip/Presto-Pizza-Oven/3218 
Very interesting ... I may buy one today to see how it works .. Worst case .. may end up making a "pizza" :)) 

Calin


--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "ae5ew" <ae5ew.us@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> What brand and model is it?  Likely a large variance between brands and models.  At what temperature is it heating at? Max?  Charles  AE5EW
> 
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Henry Liu <henryjliu@> wrote:
> >
> > Just another update: I've had this pizzaz pizza oven for over a month
> > and I'm still very happy with it.
> > 
> > This device I can stick my pcb on the plate and turn the dial to 8
> > minutes then come back 10-15 minutes later and the board is done
> > perfectly every time and the machine has cooled down.  I have done
> > over 20 prototype boards and each time it is set the dial to 8minutes
> > from a cold start and walk away.  The temperature is perfect and none
> > of the plastic parts melt yet even big 470uF smd caps get solder
> > perfectly.  I can also watch the reflow process and push parts around
> > if something is out of alignment with my dental pick.
> > 
> > For $45 it is the best thing I bought since my $99 hot air gun station for PCBs.
> > 
> > Search on walmart or amazon.com to get one yourself.  I did replace
> > the rotating plate with a solid 1/4" of aluminum that I had laying
> > around.
> > 
> > On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Henry Liu <henryjliu@> wrote:
> > > I have played with this more.
> > > The original Pizzaz pizza oven comes with a 12" or so pizza pan that spins
> > > around.
> > > To know if there is a pizza pan on top, the unit has a small push down
> > > interlock switch on the top.  The motor turns with a small rotating motor
> > > close to the front by using a shaft protrusion.
> > > I did some modifications and now it works even better!
> > > What I did was I put a 8"x6"x1/4" thick piece of aluminum plate on top of
> > > the interlock but not cover the motor shaft protrusion.  Now the unit turns
> > > on but doesn't rotate.  Also the entire plate is between the top and bottom
> > > elements now.
> > > The unit works great in this mode.  I did more tests from a COLD start and
> > > it reflows in 4:30 seconds - no hot air gun needed.  There is easily enough
> > > working space underneath to push parts around that moved out of place.
> > > The unit is compact and easy to use.  Great value at $45.  It produces 1250W
> > > of heating power through two heating elements and also has circulating fan
> > > that pushes hot down onto the heating zone.  Previously with the spinning
> > > mechanism, it would not stay on one place very well.  The power is perfect
> > > so that it reflows but doesn't melt the board.
> > > Previously I had a GE hot plate but this thing is 100x better.  The GE unit
> > > I used twice and never tried it again.  This unit I will use everytime for
> > > my small prototypes.
> > > Henry
> > >
> >
>

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