Homebrew_PCBs

The recent questions about searching archives, and downloading message
archives should serve as a reminder:

Please keep it on topic (yes, I consider CNC for mill/drill of PCBs on
topic)

Please keep the subject line informative and relevant, changing where
necessary. "Please help" is not a good subject line, "Homemade drill
table" is a good subject line.

Trim your replies. Leave enough of the original message so anyone
reading in the future will know what "yes, 3/16th" means. But please
don't post one line "yes, thanks" with 3 paragraphs of quote. The list
archive is already at 24% capacity and I've seen a -lot- of one and
two line replies with several pages of quoted text.

Please post in English, the language of the list.


Eventually the message archives are going to reach capacity, and Yahoo
will start deleting the earliest messages. Or Yahoo may decide to
allow us less storage. I don't want to see all those good early
messages start disappearing. I -may- go through and delete some of the
redundant/non-useful messages from earlier. We certainly don't need
all the monthly reminders stored in the archives. :')

I try not to be a control freak moderator. A few on the Mad_Scientist
think I am, but too bad 'cause kiddie porn spam and "I am the
anti-Christ" posts get someone banned so fast my keyboard melts.

I'm so glad I started this list!

Steve, your friendly neighborhood moderator

hi steve

i have a copy of pg offline here.
i downloaded it becasue of the zipped "cnc board" file which can be found
there.
but this file is too big for my modem (56k it would take 3-4h) so i told a
friend to download and cd it.

it may be an option that every member has his own database of this group
but i don't think this
is the best idea. the files should be available at a server.
i guess there are some people here running their own server or having
access to one.

i find it terrible too that the space is limited and yahoo deletes older
things...


i had three hd failtures in a short timespan (psu was faulty and seems to
have killed it)
and i don't trust my own dish too much ;-), everything important i have on
cd.


The VERY, VERY best would be to get all messages, from the archive, on
another server (not yahoo)
where the space is not limited (lets say 1gb or so) where old messages do
not have to be deleted.
the messages should be accessible via a online system.
this would provide a "mirror" of all messages but the older ones wouldn't
be deleted.
sure you would ned some kind of user interface on this backup server but i
think this is not a bad idea.

and now the positive effect of this system:
a new member should be able to copy the server files (maybe zipped weekly
or at backup times)
AND the user interface (html or other common browser-interpretable code) to
his harddisk.
so he can easily read through interesting things....

i too read a big number of the old posts when i joined.... it was not too
funny....
but no i don't see any reason to download the messages and store locally -
this does my mail software for me
and i can remember the "important" content....


regards
stefan

>hi steve
>
>i have a copy of pg offline here.

[snip]

I think the most radical and most complete aproach is to simply use an
e-mail list server other than yahoo.... Sorry, could not resist, but
seriousely, Stefan is right in that maybe a list member would be
willing to set such a beast up. On the other hand it would (of course)
be Steve who had to

1) remain list owner
2) would be willing to do this.

On the other hand I don't think that this is needed at this point in
time with (if memory serves) 24% of the space used. Things will be
different at the point in time when we reach 90% or such.

Then, Steve is also perfectly right deleting unrelated e-mails out of
the list. (This post IMHO definately is a candidate :)) )

Markus