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Almost free PCB Transfer Paper

2003-05-29 by Dean Batute

Hello all,
       Having no luck finding any of the brands of photopaper that 
people have been recommending for the iron on transfer method, I 
began thinking about the subject and ...WOW!!! I had an epiphany! The 
common theme seems that the paper should be of the very shiny 
(glossy) photo paper and since it's supposed to peel away in the 
water bath it SHOULD be rather thin. Then I thought to myself what 
kind of paper is like this???....the paper used in many MAGAZINES!! 
Computer magazines, glamour magazines, entertainment... any magazine 
with photos it is TYPICALLY a glossy paper format.

 O.K. so it has printing on it already...it's INK so unlike toner, it 
won't transfer to the PCB when you iron it. Now you may say "if it 
has printing on it already how can I see my PCB image when I print it 
onto this paper". Remember it's shiny. Hold the image at an angle to 
a light source and the DULL toner will show up clearly against the 
SHINY paper.

 So...DOES IT WORK?   in a word....YES!  All the problems that exist 
with just about every other type of paper remain (correct temperature 
of the iron, correct amount of pressure applied, etc. etc.) except!!! 
the price. If you don't already have any old magazines lying around 
the house, I'm SURE your city has a store that sells old magazines 
for as little as $0.25  Ironically enough I get a trade magazine free 
each month called EP&T (Electronic Products and Technology) and it's  
a large format magazine (11" X 16"). I figure I can get about 240 
small PCB's from this one magazine EVERY Month....FOR FREE.

 Why pay a dollar or more PER SHEET when you can pay a penny a sheet 
for a used magazine. Give it a try. I'd be curious to hear other 
people's success.

Take care all......Dean.

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Almost free PCB Transfer Paper

2003-05-29 by stefan_trethan@gmx.at

very nice idea!
i will of course try this.

but it may be a good idea to use magazines with no fingerprints etc on the
pages.

regards
stefan


> Hello all,
>        Having no luck finding any of the brands of photopaper that 
> people have been recommending for the iron on transfer method, I 
> began thinking about the subject and ...WOW!!! I had an epiphany! The 
> common theme seems that the paper should be of the very shiny 
> (glossy) photo paper and since it's supposed to peel away in the 
> water bath it SHOULD be rather thin. Then I thought to myself what 
> kind of paper is like this???....the paper used in many MAGAZINES!! 
> Computer magazines, glamour magazines, entertainment... any magazine 
> with photos it is TYPICALLY a glossy paper format.
> 
>  O.K. so it has printing on it already...it's INK so unlike toner, it 
> won't transfer to the PCB when you iron it. Now you may say "if it 
> has printing on it already how can I see my PCB image when I print it 
> onto this paper". Remember it's shiny. Hold the image at an angle to 
> a light source and the DULL toner will show up clearly against the 
> SHINY paper.
> 
>  So...DOES IT WORK?   in a word....YES!  All the problems that exist 
> with just about every other type of paper remain (correct temperature 
> of the iron, correct amount of pressure applied, etc. etc.) except!!! 
> the price. If you don't already have any old magazines lying around 
> the house, I'm SURE your city has a store that sells old magazines 
> for as little as $0.25  Ironically enough I get a trade magazine free 
> each month called EP&T (Electronic Products and Technology) and it's  
> a large format magazine (11" X 16"). I figure I can get about 240 
> small PCB's from this one magazine EVERY Month....FOR FREE.
> 
>  Why pay a dollar or more PER SHEET when you can pay a penny a sheet 
> for a used magazine. Give it a try. I'd be curious to hear other 
> people's success.
> 
> Take care all......Dean.
> 
> 
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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Almost free PCB Transfer Paper

2003-05-29 by Leon Heller

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Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Almost free PCB Transfer Paper


> Hello all,
>        Having no luck finding any of the brands of photopaper that
> people have been recommending for the iron on transfer method, I
> began thinking about the subject and ...WOW!!! I had an epiphany! The
> common theme seems that the paper should be of the very shiny
> (glossy) photo paper and since it's supposed to peel away in the
> water bath it SHOULD be rather thin.

I've used this technique quite successfully on a couple of occasions. I find
it best to have the iron as hot as possible.

It should be possible to buy the paper in its 'virgin' form from printers.

Leon
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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Almost free PCB Transfer Paper

2003-05-29 by kenneth magers

i will have to try this but with all of the papers
i have tried i think the main problem is getting
the paper to release the toner on the board i was
wondering if one of those enzime type wallpaper
removers might help desolve the paper any idea's

--- Dean Batute <phix_it@...> wrote:
> Hello all,
>        Having no luck finding any of the brands of
> photopaper that 
> people have been recommending for the iron on
> transfer method, I 
> began thinking about the subject and ...WOW!!! I had
> an epiphany! The 
> common theme seems that the paper should be of the
> very shiny 
> (glossy) photo paper and since it's supposed to peel
> away in the 
> water bath it SHOULD be rather thin. Then I thought
> to myself what 
> kind of paper is like this???....the paper used in
> many MAGAZINES!! 
> Computer magazines, glamour magazines,
> entertainment... any magazine 
> with photos it is TYPICALLY a glossy paper format.
> 
>  O.K. so it has printing on it already...it's INK so
> unlike toner, it 
> won't transfer to the PCB when you iron it. Now you
> may say "if it 
> has printing on it already how can I see my PCB
> image when I print it 
> onto this paper". Remember it's shiny. Hold the
> image at an angle to 
> a light source and the DULL toner will show up
> clearly against the 
> SHINY paper.
> 
>  So...DOES IT WORK?   in a word....YES!  All the
> problems that exist 
> with just about every other type of paper remain
> (correct temperature 
> of the iron, correct amount of pressure applied,
> etc. etc.) except!!! 
> the price. If you don't already have any old
> magazines lying around 
> the house, I'm SURE your city has a store that sells
> old magazines 
> for as little as $0.25  Ironically enough I get a
> trade magazine free 
> each month called EP&T (Electronic Products and
> Technology) and it's  
> a large format magazine (11" X 16"). I figure I can
> get about 240 
> small PCB's from this one magazine EVERY
> Month....FOR FREE.
> 
>  Why pay a dollar or more PER SHEET when you can pay
> a penny a sheet 
> for a used magazine. Give it a try. I'd be curious
> to hear other 
> people's success.
> 
> Take care all......Dean.
> 
> 


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Re: Almost free PCB Transfer Paper

2003-05-30 by Dean Batute

I tried adding some dishwashing liquid to the water to help make the 
water "wetter" and it seemed to help. Using HOT water helps too. As 
long as it's not too hot to burn your fingers, you shouldn't have to 
worry about melting (or at least softening) the toner. I'm going of 
to the girlfriends for the week-end but you can be sure I'll be doing 
some more experiments myself next week.

 Till then....Cheers.....Dean


--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, kenneth magers 
<kenneth_m_73149@y...> wrote:
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> i will have to try this but with all of the papers
> i have tried i think the main problem is getting
> the paper to release the toner on the board i was
> wondering if one of those enzime type wallpaper
> removers might help desolve the paper any idea's