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OK, with all the hype i have heard about this paper i went and got 
some today from my local Staples store.

Just tried it and its poo. It printed just fine in the laser and 
looked like it was going to be good. But as soon as the iron touched 
it, it stuck to the iron. Not a good sign!  So i placed some normal 
paper on top and continued to iron, them dumped it in some warm 
water. Five minutes later i come back to the water soaked board and 
try to pull some of the paper off and its stuck solid to the board, 
not just where the toner is but, also the paper is stuck solid. I 
soaked it some more and found that there is a plastic coating on the 
back of the paper and managed to pull that off. and soaked some more. 
15 minutes later is still stuck like poo to a blanket! In fact i 
think i'm going to have to throw out this bit of copper clad board 
because i just cant get the stuff off.

Well i guess the paper we have here in the UK is not the same as the 
stuff they sell in the staples in the US.

Has anyone else tried this stuff in the UK ?

Gary

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:03:12 +0100, Gary Hoyles <dimlow_uk@...>  
wrote:

> OK, with all the hype i have heard about this paper i went and got
> some today from my local Staples store.
> Just tried it and its poo. It printed just fine in the laser and
> looked like it was going to be good. But as soon as the iron touched
> it, it stuck to the iron. Not a good sign!  So i placed some normal
> paper on top and continued to iron, them dumped it in some warm
> water. Five minutes later i come back to the water soaked board and
> try to pull some of the paper off and its stuck solid to the board,
> not just where the toner is but, also the paper is stuck solid. I
> soaked it some more and found that there is a plastic coating on the
> back of the paper and managed to pull that off. and soaked some more.
> 15 minutes later is still stuck like poo to a blanket! In fact i
> think i'm going to have to throw out this bit of copper clad board
> because i just cant get the stuff off.
> Well i guess the paper we have here in the UK is not the same as the
> stuff they sell in the staples in the US.
> Has anyone else tried this stuff in the UK ?
> Gary


I have a box of the same poo ;-)
It must be some type of plastic coating.
Surprisingly it does go through the printer allright.

It works very well to make cover sheets for printed out manuals and stuff,  
but that's about all ;-)

ST

Don't oos the copper, just soak it in some laquer thinner and it'll come
right off.

CW




--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Gary Hoyles" <dimlow_uk@...>
wrote:

>
> OK, with all the hype i have heard about this paper i went and got
> some today from my local Staples store.
>
> Just tried it and its poo. It printed just fine in the laser and
> looked like it was going to be good. But as soon as the iron touched
> it, it stuck to the iron. Not a good sign! So i placed some normal
> paper on top and continued to iron, them dumped it in some warm
> water. Five minutes later i come back to the water soaked board and
> try to pull some of the paper off and its stuck solid to the board,
> not just where the toner is but, also the paper is stuck solid. I
> soaked it some more and found that there is a plastic coating on the
> back of the paper and managed to pull that off. and soaked some more.
> 15 minutes later is still stuck like poo to a blanket! In fact i
> think i'm going to have to throw out this bit of copper clad board
> because i just cant get the stuff off.
>
> Well i guess the paper we have here in the UK is not the same as the
> stuff they sell in the staples in the US.
>
> Has anyone else tried this stuff in the UK ?
>
> Gary
>

I dont have an inkjet printer so im suck with this poo now.

Anyway. i have to ask the question, does ant of the other stuff in staples work well ?

I got some cheep "Tesco's Blue Stripe" Photo Glossy Paper, you  know the value stuff, and it does work well, but only for board with wide spacings , say 15 - 20 mil, as it leaves small stripes of paper in between the finer tracks. I have also used the stuff from the maplin catalogue, that works quite well, but still not so good on the finer tracks. I got this Staples stuff in the hope that it would make a great board as i am trying to make a single sided board that's need tracks of 10 mil and spacing of 10 mil, each time i have made this board i have had to get a knife and cut to separate some tracks, Its getting a pain, so hopefully somebody can shout out to me "he use this paper its great stuff" other wise its off to Maplin this weekend to get kitted up for UV.

Gary

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Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 4:18:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] UK Staples , Photoo Basic Glossy, is Poo and sticks like it too


On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:03:12 +0100, Gary Hoyles <dimlow_uk@...>  
wrote:

> OK, with all the hype i have heard about this paper i went and got
> some today from my local Staples store.
> Just tried it and its poo. It printed just fine in the laser and
> looked like it was going to be good. But as soon as the iron touched
> it, it stuck to the iron. Not a good sign!  So i placed some normal
> paper on top and continued to iron, them dumped it in some warm
> water. Five minutes later i come back to the water soaked board and
> try to pull some of the paper off and its stuck solid to the board,
> not just where the toner is but, also the paper is stuck solid. I
> soaked it some more and found that there is a plastic coating on the
> back of the paper and managed to pull that off. and soaked some more.
> 15 minutes later is still stuck like poo to a blanket! In fact i
> think i'm going to have to throw out this bit of copper clad board
> because i just cant get the stuff off.
> Well i guess the paper we have here in the UK is not the same as the
> stuff they sell in the staples in the US.
> Has anyone else tried this stuff in the UK ?
> Gary


I have a box of the same poo ;-)
It must be some type of plastic coating.
Surprisingly it does go through the printer allright.

It works very well to make cover sheets for printed out manuals and stuff,  
but that's about all ;-)

ST


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I have had this 'plastic paper' also in economy photo papers, I keep
meaning to try some of the stuff theat Netto get in, but it only comes
round every few month and no gte that they will stick to the same
supplier.


There cheap dremil tool is useful.

On 11/01/07, Gary Hoyles <dimlow_uk@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I dont have an inkjet printer so im suck with this poo now.
>
>  Anyway. i have to ask the question, does ant of the other stuff in staples work well ?
>
>  I got some cheep "Tesco's Blue Stripe" Photo Glossy Paper, you  know the value stuff, and it does work well, but only for board with wide spacings , say 15 - 20 mil, as it leaves small stripes of paper in between the finer tracks. I have also used the stuff from the maplin catalogue, that works quite well, but still not so good on the finer tracks. I got this Staples stuff in the hope that it would make a great board as i am trying to make a single sided board that's need tracks of 10 mil and spacing of 10 mil, each time i have made this board i have had to get a knife and cut to separate some tracks, Its getting a pain, so hopefully somebody can shout out to me "he use this paper its great stuff" other wise its off to Maplin this weekend to get kitted up for UV.

OOOOoooooO dont go there, go to ebay or build something.........

Lez

I was just going to get some UV tubes and the chemicals, not wanting 
to spend to much.

Ebay is ok but i hate waiting for stuff to turn up in the post, plus 
you have to wait for the auction to end before its even beggining to 
be on its way to you!

Gary
--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Lez <lez.briddon@...> wrote:
>
> On 11/01/07, Gary Hoyles <dimlow_uk@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I dont have an inkjet printer so im suck with this poo now.
> >
> >  Anyway. i have to ask the question, does ant of the other stuff 
in staples work well ?
> >
> >  I got some cheep "Tesco's Blue Stripe" Photo Glossy Paper, you  
know the value stuff, and it does work well, but only for board with 
wide spacings , say 15 - 20 mil, as it leaves small stripes of paper 
in between the finer tracks. I have also used the stuff from the 
maplin catalogue, that works quite well, but still not so good on the 
finer tracks. I got this Staples stuff in the hope that it would make 
a great board as i am trying to make a single sided board that's need 
tracks of 10 mil and spacing of 10 mil, each time i have made this 
board i have had to get a knife and cut to separate some tracks, Its 
getting a pain, so hopefully somebody can shout out to me "he use 
this paper its great stuff" other wise its off to Maplin this weekend 
to get kitted up for UV.

> 
> OOOOoooooO dont go there, go to ebay or build something.........
> 
> Lez
>

Gary Hoyles wrote:
> I dont have an inkjet printer so im suck with this poo now.
> 
> Anyway. i have to ask the question, does ant of the other stuff in staples work well ?
> 
> I got some cheep "Tesco's Blue Stripe" Photo Glossy Paper, you  know the value stuff, and it does work well, but only for board with wide spacings , say 15 - 20 mil, as it leaves small stripes of paper in between the finer tracks. I have also used the stuff from the maplin catalogue, that works quite well, but still not so good on the finer tracks. I got this Staples stuff in the hope that it would make a great board as i am trying to make a single sided board that's need tracks of 10 mil and spacing of 10 mil, each time i have made this board i have had to get a knife and cut to separate some tracks, Its getting a pain, so hopefully somebody can shout out to me "he use this paper its great stuff" other wise its off to Maplin this weekend to get kitted up for UV.

OK, I don't have Mailtunnel set up on this machine, so I have no idea if 
this message will even get through but...

1) I posted to the list and updated the database a few months back 
w.r.t. the Staples paper changing formulation. Yes, it's a plastic 
coating - I also mentioned the "burn test" for testing the paper. 
Basically you heat the paper with a gas lighter or heat gun and if it's 
plastic coated it'll bubble before it burns. If it's paper (cellulose 
fibre) it'll just burn.

2) HP Everyday Photo Paper (Semigloss) is fairly good. You need to turn 
the print density WAY up, but it literally floats off the PCB, leaving 
almost no residue. As a bonus, because the coating dissolves so easily, 
it doesn't pull the toner off. It's about \ufffd10 for a pack of 100 sheets, 
but when I bought mine they (Staples) were doing a buy-one-get-one-free 
offer on the stuff.

3) Try it on a bit - take the Staples stuff back and just say "it 
doesn't work in my printer" (which it doesn't). If they don't refund or 
offer a credit note, ask if they'll exchange it for some of the HP stuff 
if you pay the difference in price. For what it's worth, the new-formula 
Staples photo paper is absolutely dire - it doesn't even work properly 
in my Epson C64 inkjet. The HP stuff, OTOH, does... Read into that what 
you will.
Argos sell the stuff too: 
http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001&productId=559122
I'll get the HP item code off my paper when I get home - I'm mooching 
off the wifi at university at the moment...

4) In general, semigloss papers are more likely to work for TT than 
glossy papers. The old-formula Staples glossy used to leave bits of 
coating inside pad drill holes, which was a pain to remove. I ended up 
using a bradawl to remove it...

5) Aim for something about as thick as the HP stuff. IIRC it's about 170gsm.

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 18:20:44 +0100, Gary Hoyles <dimlow_uk@...>  
wrote:

> I dont have an inkjet printer so im suck with this poo now.

Oh i still print with the laser on it, to make book covers ;-)

> Anyway. i have to ask the question, does ant of the other stuff in  
> staples work well ?
> I got some cheep "Tesco's Blue Stripe" Photo Glossy Paper, you  know the  
> value stuff, and it does work well, but only for board with wide  
> spacings , say 15 - 20 mil, as it leaves small stripes of paper in  
> between the finer tracks.

Rub with a piece of sponge or foam. That'll get the paper out. Rubbing  
along the length of the gap works better.

ST

I too have a pack of Staples Poo, I gave up TT after
this fiasco. I never thought to use it in an inkjet.

Thanks for the info Philip, I'll have another try with
the HP Everyday.

Roger


--- Philip Pemberton <ygroups@...> wrote:

> Gary Hoyles wrote:
> > I dont have an inkjet printer so im suck with this
> poo now.
> > 
> > Anyway. i have to ask the question, does ant of
> the other stuff in staples work well ?
> > 
> > I got some cheep "Tesco's Blue Stripe" Photo
> Glossy Paper, you  know the value stuff, and it does
> work well, but only for board with wide spacings ,
> say 15 - 20 mil, as it leaves small stripes of paper
> in between the finer tracks. I have also used the
> stuff from the maplin catalogue, that works quite
> well, but still not so good on the finer tracks. I
> got this Staples stuff in the hope that it would
> make a great board as i am trying to make a single
> sided board that's need tracks of 10 mil and spacing
> of 10 mil, each time i have made this board i have
> had to get a knife and cut to separate some tracks,
> Its getting a pain, so hopefully somebody can shout
> out to me "he use this paper its great stuff" other
> wise its off to Maplin this weekend to get kitted up
> for UV.
> 
> OK, I don't have Mailtunnel set up on this machine,
> so I have no idea if 
> this message will even get through but...
> 
> 1) I posted to the list and updated the database a
> few months back 
> w.r.t. the Staples paper changing formulation. Yes,
> it's a plastic 
> coating - I also mentioned the "burn test" for
> testing the paper. 
> Basically you heat the paper with a gas lighter or
> heat gun and if it's 
> plastic coated it'll bubble before it burns. If it's
> paper (cellulose 
> fibre) it'll just burn.
> 
> 2) HP Everyday Photo Paper (Semigloss) is fairly
> good. You need to turn 
> the print density WAY up, but it literally floats
> off the PCB, leaving 
> almost no residue. As a bonus, because the coating
> dissolves so easily, 
> it doesn't pull the toner off. It's about \ufffd10 for a
> pack of 100 sheets, 
> but when I bought mine they (Staples) were doing a
> buy-one-get-one-free 
> offer on the stuff.
> 
> 3) Try it on a bit - take the Staples stuff back and
> just say "it 
> doesn't work in my printer" (which it doesn't). If
> they don't refund or 
> offer a credit note, ask if they'll exchange it for
> some of the HP stuff 
> if you pay the difference in price. For what it's
> worth, the new-formula 
> Staples photo paper is absolutely dire - it doesn't
> even work properly 
> in my Epson C64 inkjet. The HP stuff, OTOH, does...
> Read into that what 
> you will.
> Argos sell the stuff too: 
>
http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001&productId=559122
> I'll get the HP item code off my paper when I get
> home - I'm mooching 
> off the wifi at university at the moment...
> 
> 4) In general, semigloss papers are more likely to
> work for TT than 
> glossy papers. The old-formula Staples glossy used
> to leave bits of 
> coating inside pad drill holes, which was a pain to
> remove. I ended up 
> using a bradawl to remove it...
> 
> 5) Aim for something about as thick as the HP stuff.
> IIRC it's about 170gsm.
> 



		
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roger lucas wrote:
> I too have a pack of Staples Poo, I gave up TT after
> this fiasco. I never thought to use it in an inkjet.

Well, you won't be able to TT with it, but at least you'll be able to print on 
it in some way...
The old Staples "130g/m2 Inkjet GLOSS paper" is fairly good, but all the stock 
has gone AFAICT.

HP C1847A "HP Photo Paper" (aka Q5437A) is the best - again, if you can find 
some - it's been out of production for a few years. Toner sticks well, and the 
paper floats right off. Q2510A ("Everyday" HP Photo Paper) is the new stuff, 
but I find the toner doesn't stick as well, so you sometimes get gaps. You 
don't usually get fluff stuck to the page though :)

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Thats is i give up, Im gonna have a go at making one of these http://hackedgadgets.com/2006/10/31/uv-led-pcb-exposure-system/ or this http://www.elektor-electronics.co.uk/default.aspx?tabid=27&art=53039

Look like people are having good results. http://www.elektor-electronics.co.uk/default.aspx?tabid=29&forumid=5&postid=1369&view=topic

You can get 100 UV leds for like 10 ukp from ebay, im gonna place to order in the morning as i have tried to do this board 3 time again tonight with no luck.

Gary

----- Original Message ----
From: Philip Pemberton <ygroups@...>
To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 10:14:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] UK Staples , Photoo Basic Glossy, is Poo and sticks like it too

roger lucas wrote:
> I too have a pack of Staples Poo, I gave up TT after
> this fiasco. I never thought to use it in an inkjet.

Well, you won't be able to TT with it, but at least you'll be able to print on 
it in some way...
The old Staples "130g/m2 Inkjet GLOSS paper" is fairly good, but all the stock 
has gone AFAICT.

HP C1847A "HP Photo Paper" (aka Q5437A) is the best - again, if you can find 
some - it's been out of production for a few years. Toner sticks well, and the 
paper floats right off. Q2510A ("Everyday" HP Photo Paper) is the new stuff, 
but I find the toner doesn't stick as well, so you sometimes get gaps. You 
don't usually get fluff stuck to the page though :)

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> > Well i guess the paper we have here in the UK is not the same as the
> > stuff they sell in the staples in the US.
> > Has anyone else tried this stuff in the UK ?

do you have Epsons in UK?
just use Epson Photo Glossy paper, instead of gaming around with all that crazy
stuff...



 
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On 12/01/07, Herbert E. Plett <cachureos@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > > Well i guess the paper we have here in the UK is not the same as the
>  > > stuff they sell in the staples in the US.
>  > > Has anyone else tried this stuff in the UK ?
>
>  do you have Epsons in UK?
>  just use Epson Photo Glossy paper, instead of gaming around with all that crazy
>  stuff...
>

does more than one epson paper exist, have you a number to put to it?
Lez

> >  do you have Epsons in UK?
> >  just use Epson Photo Glossy paper, instead of gaming around with all that
> >  crazy stuff...
> >
> 
> does more than one epson paper exist, have you a number to put to it?
> Lez

Sorry I wrote it wrong, the correct spelling is:
"Epson Photo Paper Glossy"  :-(  I apologize for writing paper lower case and
at the end.
Did you search for it? Google is miraculous. There is only ONE paper like that.
All the others are 'super', 'premium', 'extra' and so forth...
Try SKU # S041141 and add "co.uk" and you might get dozens of UK stores
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PHil, Your Da MAN!

Well, i thought id give this TT one last try then it was over to UV

took a trip to Staples and maplin, got the "Everyday" HP Photo Paper, 
its semi gloss and a cheap laminator from Maplins £29, not the one 
that's on offer right now for £10.

Got home not expecting too much and quickly ran through a test board. 
Not really cleaning the board or doing much prep.

The result  the best TT board i have done to date! this board has 
10mil tracks and 10mil spacing, the tracks are solid and the spaces 
look a mile wide!!!!

The only thing i have to say about it , is that it does need quite a 
soak in warm water, once soaked, ALL the paper came right off the 
board no problems. The large filled areas could also be a bit darker. 
But this is the closest to a perfest board i have come to.

THANKS again PHIll, you saved me from the horrid chemicals.


Gary

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Philip Pemberton <ygroups@...> 
wrote:
>
> roger lucas wrote:
> > I too have a pack of Staples Poo, I gave up TT after
> > this fiasco. I never thought to use it in an inkjet.
> 
> Well, you won't be able to TT with it, but at least you'll be able 
to print on 
> it in some way...
> The old Staples "130g/m2 Inkjet GLOSS paper" is fairly good, but 
all the stock 
> has gone AFAICT.
> 
> HP C1847A "HP Photo Paper" (aka Q5437A) is the best - again, if you 
can find 
> some - it's been out of production for a few years. Toner sticks 
well, and the 
> paper floats right off. Q2510A ("Everyday" HP Photo Paper) is the 
new stuff, 
> but I find the toner doesn't stick as well, so you sometimes get 
gaps. You 
> don't usually get fluff stuck to the page though :)
> 
> -- 
> Phil.                         |  (\_/)  This is Bunny. Copy and 
paste Bunny

> ygroups@...         | (='.'=) into your signature to help him gain
> http://www.philpem.me.uk/     | (")_(") world domination.
>

Seems i was a little fast in trying to take the paper off my first board with this paper. I just made it again with a little more care in the prep and it turned out great. If you leave it longer in the water( as Phill said earlier) the paper peels right off leaving no trace of paper on the board. All i had to do was wipe it down with a sponge after and its perfect.

Gary

----- Original Message ----
From: Gary Hoyles <dimlow_uk@...>
To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 6:33:36 PM
Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: UK Staples , Photoo Basic Glossy, is Poo and sticks like it too

PHil, Your Da MAN!

Well, i thought id give this TT one last try then it was over to UV

took a trip to Staples and maplin, got the "Everyday" HP Photo Paper, 
its semi gloss and a cheap laminator from Maplins £29, not the one 
that's on offer right now for £10.

Got home not expecting too much and quickly ran through a test board. 
Not really cleaning the board or doing much prep.

The result the best TT board i have done to date! this board has 
10mil tracks and 10mil spacing, the tracks are solid and the spaces 
look a mile wide!!!!

The only thing i have to say about it , is that it does need quite a 
soak in warm water, once soaked, ALL the paper came right off the 
board no problems. The large filled areas could also be a bit darker. 
But this is the closest to a perfest board i have come to.

THANKS again PHIll, you saved me from the horrid chemicals.

Gary

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@ yahoogroups. com, Philip Pemberton <ygroups@... > 
wrote:
>
> roger lucas wrote:
> > I too have a pack of Staples Poo, I gave up TT after
> > this fiasco. I never thought to use it in an inkjet.
> 
> Well, you won't be able to TT with it, but at least you'll be able 
to print on 
> it in some way...
> The old Staples "130g/m2 Inkjet GLOSS paper" is fairly good, but 
all the stock 
> has gone AFAICT.
> 
> HP C1847A "HP Photo Paper" (aka Q5437A) is the best - again, if you 
can find 
> some - it's been out of production for a few years. Toner sticks 
well, and the 
> paper floats right off. Q2510A ("Everyday" HP Photo Paper) is the 
new stuff, 
> but I find the toner doesn't stick as well, so you sometimes get 
gaps. You 
> don't usually get fluff stuck to the page though :)
> 
> -- 
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paste Bunny
> ygroups@... | (='.'=) into your signature to help him gain
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Gary Hoyles wrote:
> Seems i was a little fast in trying to take the paper off my first board
> with this paper. I just made it again with a little more care in the prep
> and it turned out great. If you leave it longer in the water( as Phill said
> earlier) the paper peels right off leaving no trace of paper on the board.
> All i had to do was wipe it down with a sponge after and its perfect.

If you want to speed up the soaking a bit more, put some washing up liquid 
into the warm water before you put the board in. It helps break down the 
coating a bit quicker.

And my name's spelled with one L, not two! :)

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On 13/01/07, Gary Hoyles <dimlow_uk@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> PHil, Your Da MAN!
>
>  Well, i thought id give this TT one last try then it was over to UV
>
>  took a trip to Staples and maplin, got the "Everyday" HP Photo Paper,

Gary, have you got the number off the HP packet?

Its sunday but maybe their open till afternoon...........

Lez

yes its Q2510A. be carefull becasue thay had a packet of the same paper but with a different number. Im off out to staples again soon now to stock up on this stuff.

Gary

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From: Lez <lez.briddon@...>
To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 10:03:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: UK Staples , Photoo Basic Glossy, is Poo and sticks like it too

On 13/01/07, Gary Hoyles <dimlow_uk@yahoo. co.uk> wrote:
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Gary, have you got the number off the HP packet?

Its sunday but maybe their open till afternoon... ........

Lez




 
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On 14/01/07, Gary Hoyles <dimlow_uk@...> wrote:
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> yes its Q2510A. be carefull becasue thay had a packet of the same paper but with a different number. Im off out to staples again soon now to stock up on this stuff.
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Right I'll go get a pack and try it aswell, I want the holy grail but
TT will do for me for now....

May even get a cheap laminator from Asda, they have them for a tenner,
see if thats any good, my last lami died from excessive cog
modification....

Lez

If the laminator is this like this one http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=99485&TabID=1&source=1&doy=14m1 dont bother, get one that can do at least 250 micron. the one i got has two heat settings one for 160 micron and one for 250 micron, only the 250 setting works , and still it ould bet hotter!

Gary

----- Original Message ----
From: Lez <lez.briddon@...>
To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 12:27:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: UK Staples , Photoo Basic Glossy, is Poo and sticks like it too

On 14/01/07, Gary Hoyles <dimlow_uk@yahoo. co.uk> wrote:
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> yes its Q2510A. be carefull becasue thay had a packet of the same paper but with a different number. Im off out to staples again soon now to stock up on this stuff.
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> Gary

Right I'll go get a pack and try it aswell, I want the holy grail but
TT will do for me for now....

May even get a cheap laminator from Asda, they have them for a tenner,
see if thats any good, my last lami died from excessive cog
modification. ...

Lez





 
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