Homebrew PCBs

Hi all,

I'm new to this list and have tried to read as many post as possible 
regarding the direct inkjet printing process.
I intend to buy in the following days the new HP Photosmart D5160 
printer which is able to pdirectly print on CDs.

Has anyone tried to use this printer before for direct print PCBs?

Thank you and best regards,
Dan

On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 09:03:28 +0100, tdanro <danto@...> wrote:

> Hi all,
> I'm new to this list and have tried to read as many post as possible
> regarding the direct inkjet printing process.
> I intend to buy in the following days the new HP Photosmart D5160
> printer which is able to pdirectly print on CDs.
> Has anyone tried to use this printer before for direct print PCBs?
> Thank you and best regards,
> Dan


Hp printers use heat to propell the ink out of the nozzles. That reduces  
the number of inks they are compatible with.
So far only resin type inks like durabright and mispro seem to resist  
etching well.
I think you'll have to try and see.

ST

Hi Stefan,

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stefan Trethan" <stefan_trethan@...>
To: <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Using a HP Photosmart D5160 for direct inkjet 
printing


> On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 09:03:28 +0100, tdanro <danto@...> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> I'm new to this list and have tried to read as many post as possible
>> regarding the direct inkjet printing process.
>> I intend to buy in the following days the new HP Photosmart D5160
>> printer which is able to pdirectly print on CDs.
>> Has anyone tried to use this printer before for direct print PCBs?
>> Thank you and best regards,
>> Dan
>
>
> Hp printers use heat to propell the ink out of the nozzles. That reduces
> the number of inks they are compatible with.
> So far only resin type inks like durabright and mispro seem to resist
> etching well.
> I think you'll have to try and see.
>

I'll do some tests and I'll be back with my results.

Thank you and best regards,
Dan

I have tried MIS pro color black on HP DeskJet 930C it
was ok and almost similar to Epson results. If you
look at message archives I think you can find the
corresponding message.  The result of etched board was
http://tech.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs/photos/view/3c45?b=11
Volkan 

>....Has anyone tried to use this printer before for 
>direct print PCBs?

Hi,

Great!
Then I have some hope to use it for PCBs too...

Thank you and best regards,
Dan

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Volkan Sahin 
  To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 3:31 PM
  Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Using a HP Photosmart D5160 for direct inkjet printing


  I have tried MIS pro color black on HP DeskJet 930C it
  was ok and almost similar to Epson results. If you
  look at message archives I think you can find the
  corresponding message. The result of etched board was
  http://tech.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs/photos/view/3c45?b=11
  Volkan 

  >....Has anyone tried to use this printer before for 
  >direct print PCBs?



   

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Greetings,
I am new to this group though I have been professionally involved in 
the electronics industry for 24 years. I am now in a position where 
making my own PCB is very compelling. The possibility of using a 
direct to copper method seems to be the most straight-forward (the 
fewest steps). My question is this: Has anyone done a double sided 
board using this method. Any registration problems? Does the primary 
side make it through the printer OK when the secondary side is 
printed?

Thanks,
Peter


--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Dan" <danto@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> 
> Great!
> Then I have some hope to use it for PCBs too...
> 
> Thank you and best regards,
> Dan
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Volkan Sahin 
>   To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 3:31 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Using a HP Photosmart D5160 for 
direct inkjet printing
> 
> 
>   I have tried MIS pro color black on HP DeskJet 930C it
>   was ok and almost similar to Epson results. If you
>   look at message archives I think you can find the
>   corresponding message. The result of etched board was
>   
http://tech.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs/photos/view/3c45?
b=11

>   Volkan 
> 
>   >....Has anyone tried to use this printer before for 
>   >direct print PCBs?
> 
> 
> 
>    
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 16:58:16 +0100, guiman1111 <getter49@...> wrote:

> Greetings,
> I am new to this group though I have been professionally involved in
> the electronics industry for 24 years. I am now in a position where
> making my own PCB is very compelling. The possibility of using a
> direct to copper method seems to be the most straight-forward (the
> fewest steps). My question is this: Has anyone done a double sided
> board using this method. Any registration problems? Does the primary
> side make it through the printer OK when the secondary side is
> printed?
> Thanks,
> Peter


You'll have to let it fully dry before you print the other side. Once  
cured the ink is extremely tough and very difficult to remove.
I think there would be no problems with almost any kind of feeding,  
although i use a flat carrier sheet so there would ne no abrasion.

The repeatability is very good with a carrier, i have no noticeable offset  
of two crosshairs printed in the same place. The key is to start your  
carrier sheet at the same place each time though, with a mechanical stop.  
I have found the optical page leading edge detector is not used  
accurately. To align the sides you can use a straight edge to push the  
board against, and a center mark.

ST