what's the best tool for etching pcb's
2003-05-07 by spoothammer
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2003-05-07 by spoothammer
2003-05-07 by grantfair2001
>
> Hi,
>
> I hope I'm not re-asking a worn out question... but here goes. What is
> the best tool to use to route printed circuit boards on an NC mill? I
> have a Sherline mill with the NC kit, Xylotex controller, and Master 5
> as the controller software. I am using Eagle PCB for designing boards.
> I just need to know what the best (meaning least expensive but giving
> good results & life). What does LPKF and the other board router
> devices use? Is Grizzly a good source? Tool steel or carbide?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bob
2003-05-07 by JanRwl@AOL.COM
> Is Grizzly a good source? Tool steel or carbide?Bob: I have been reading mail from latest-received, on, so I just got to
>
2003-05-08 by twb8899
>is
> Hi,
>
> I hope I'm not re-asking a worn out question... but here goes. What
> the best tool to use to route printed circuit boards on an NC mill?I
> have a Sherline mill with the NC kit, Xylotex controller, andMaster 5
> as the controller software. I am using Eagle PCB for designingboards.
> I just need to know what the best (meaning least expensive butgiving
> good results & life). What does LPKF and the other board router
> devices use? Is Grizzly a good source? Tool steel or carbide?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bob
2003-05-08 by Steve
--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, JanRwl@A... wrote:
-snip-
> I have seen solid-carbide "router bits" in various mail-order
catalogs, but
> never having used them continuously every day, just buying a few "to
have on
> hand if ever needed", I can't now tell you from whence! Check
catalogs of
> MPJA, JDR Microdevices, Enco, Harbor Freight, and of course, those I
have
> forgotten at the moment!
Don't forget to check the Links section of the list, and if you have a
good supplier please add their website in the appropriate folder.
-snip-
> It almost seems that some "ol' boy out there" in the
machine-manufacturing
> business might do well to design/offer a neat little 100-W.
air-motor with
> air-bearings, a 1/8" collet, and a design-RPM of, what, 100,000 RPM,
running
> on 90 PSI, 4 CFM "shop air" for $100 each, not including compressor!
(is
> 90 PSI @ 4 CFM about equal to 100 Watt????)
Don Lancaster suggested dental turbines as cheap (about $14)
disposable cutting tools. Something I've wanted to try. Also called a
"Dental Handpiece".
http://63.140.207.28/musev.pdf/hack76.pdf
With a suitably sharp bit, one of these on a very flexible airhose,
and a heck of a vacuuming system, these may work on something like HP
flatbed plotters. Maybe have to stick with 1 oz or 1/2 oz copper. I
have no idea what the runout is on these little turbines. It should be
pretty low, as any vibration while carving up teeth is -highly-
undesirable.
Here's his page on what he calles "flutterwumpers", ie, hack and grind
plotters:
http://www.tinaja.com/flut01.asp
Has anyone done any more investigation on using John Kleinbauer's
Scratch 'N Etch idea? For those that weren't here then:
Spray PCB with Layout Fluid (Dykem brand was suggested) with a thin
even coat.
Place modified pen in plotter- it has a carbide tip in place of the
pen tip.
Plot PCB pattern onto board. It scratches off a thin line of the
layout fluid.
Etch and drill.
Denny did a couple of tests by hand, here are the archived messages:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs/message/281
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs/message/286
I've modified a pen and bought an HP plotter just for this, even have
a spray can of layout fluid. Just have had way too much to do.
Steve Greenfield
2003-05-08 by Stefan Trethan
>--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, JanRwl@A... wrote:
>-snip-
>> I have seen solid-carbide "router bits" in various mail-order
>catalogs, but
>> never having used them continuously every day, just buying a few "to
>have on
>> hand if ever needed", I can't now tell you from whence! Check
>catalogs of
>> MPJA, JDR Microdevices, Enco, Harbor Freight, and of course, those I
>have
>> forgotten at the moment!
>
>Don't forget to check the Links section of the list, and if you have a
>good supplier please add their website in the appropriate folder.
>
>-snip-
>> It almost seems that some "ol' boy out there" in the
>machine-manufacturing
>> business might do well to design/offer a neat little 100-W.
>air-motor with
>> air-bearings, a 1/8" collet, and a design-RPM of, what, 100,000 RPM,
>running
>> on 90 PSI, 4 CFM "shop air" for $100 each, not including compressor!
> (is
>> 90 PSI @ 4 CFM about equal to 100 Watt????)
>
>Don Lancaster suggested dental turbines as cheap (about $14)
>disposable cutting tools. Something I've wanted to try. Also called a
>"Dental Handpiece".
>
>http://63.140.207.28/musev.pdf/hack76.pdf
>
>With a suitably sharp bit, one of these on a very flexible airhose,
>and a heck of a vacuuming system, these may work on something like HP
>flatbed plotters. Maybe have to stick with 1 oz or 1/2 oz copper. I
>have no idea what the runout is on these little turbines. It should be
>pretty low, as any vibration while carving up teeth is -highly-
>undesirable.
>
>Here's his page on what he calles "flutterwumpers", ie, hack and grind
>plotters:
>http://www.tinaja.com/flut01.asp
>
>Has anyone done any more investigation on using John Kleinbauer's
>Scratch 'N Etch idea? For those that weren't here then:
>
>Spray PCB with Layout Fluid (Dykem brand was suggested) with a thin
>even coat.
>
>Place modified pen in plotter- it has a carbide tip in place of the
>pen tip.
>
>Plot PCB pattern onto board. It scratches off a thin line of the
>layout fluid.
>
>Etch and drill.
>
>Denny did a couple of tests by hand, here are the archived messages:
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs/message/281
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs/message/286
>
>I've modified a pen and bought an HP plotter just for this, even have
>a spray can of layout fluid. Just have had way too much to do.
>
>Steve Greenfield
>
>
>
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2003-05-09 by Mike Putnam
----- Original Message -----
From: "spoothammer" <spoothammer@...>
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Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 4:34 AM
Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] what's the best tool for etching pcb's
>
> Hi,
>
> I hope I'm not re-asking a worn out question... but here goes. What is
> the best tool to use to route printed circuit boards on an NC mill? I
> have a Sherline mill with the NC kit, Xylotex controller, and Master 5
> as the controller software. I am using Eagle PCB for designing boards.
> I just need to know what the best (meaning least expensive but giving
> good results & life). What does LPKF and the other board router
> devices use? Is Grizzly a good source? Tool steel or carbide?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bob
>
>
>
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