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Anyone care to take a stab at translating this page? Looks like he's using
an HP plotter to plot directly on the substrate.

 

 

http://freeweb.supereva.com/mauroh.mybox/pcbconplotter/pcbconplotter.htm?p

      

 

 

 

>Len



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Hello Len.

babelfish.yahoo.com translated
http://freeweb.supereva.com/mauroh.mybox/pcbconplotter/pcbconplotter.htm
(?) Italian to English to this:


(Clicca on the images in order to magnify them)
The procedure is much simple one, enough to design the PCB with just the
preferred program and to print directly on the clean sideburn.
In order to fix it to the plan it is necessary of the adhesive tape and he
is indispensable to load the pen-nibs with indelebile ink.
If it is not succeeded to find the ink in stationery store, a indelebile one
put in an appropriate support for plotter can be used common pennarello.
If it is not had such support, the refil will have to be removed from the
pennarello, and after to have cut it, it is arranged within a normal
pen-nib.
In order to see the circuit in this way ended realized clicca here.


For whichever information you also write to me transistor@...





I hope that is helpful.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Len Shelton
To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 11:04 AM
Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] PCB Plotter


Anyone care to take a stab at translating this page? Looks like he's using
an HP plotter to plot directly on the substrate.

http://freeweb.supereva.com/mauroh.mybox/pcbconplotter/pcbconplotter.htm?p

>Len

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On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 22:52:45 +0200, Jim Pruitt <wa7duy@...> wrote:

> print directly on the clean sideburn.


LOL!
What would we be without automated translation ;-)

But if you think about it that one is much better than some of the stuff  
that ships as operating instructions with products...

ST

it is Roland flatbed plotter, not HP.
  (worthless page)

Len Shelton <len@...> wrote:
          Anyone care to take a stab at translating this page? Looks like he's using
an HP plotter to plot directly on the substrate.

http://freeweb.supereva.com/mauroh.mybox/pcbconplotter/pcbconplotter.htm?p

>


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----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Len Shelton" <len@...>
To: <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 7:04 PM
Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] PCB Plotter


> Anyone care to take a stab at translating this page? Looks like he's using
> an HP plotter to plot directly on the substrate.

Yes, that's what he's doing. It works OK with the right ink.

Leon

>It works OK with the right ink.

I suspect the original poster sees a similarity with inkjet printing 
on copper (without the extreme modifications, brake fluid, curing, 
etc., etc., etc.) and is wondering why there isn't still more interest 
in plotters for PCB work....All indications are that they went the way 
of the Dodo.

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Leon Heller" <leon.heller@...> 
wrote:
>

Yes, it is a Roland. Sorry. I was thinking of the HP plotter that I've have
sitting on a shelf just waiting for a purpose.

 

Maybe this is an old subject for this forum, but being relatively new here,
and for the sake of discussion, what was the way of the Dodo?

 

I have a couple of small cnc routers built from retired robotics equipment
that I am happy with, so I am just being curious.

 

Thanks,

 

Len

 

  _____  

From: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of derekhawkins
Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 6:58 PM
To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: PCB Plotter

 

>It works OK with the right ink.

I suspect the original poster sees a similarity with inkjet printing 
on copper (without the extreme modifications, brake fluid, curing, 
etc., etc., etc.) and is wondering why there isn't still more interest 
in plotters for PCB work....All indications are that they went the way 
of the Dodo.

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@ <mailto:Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, "Leon Heller" <leon.heller@...> 
wrote:
>

 



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--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Len Shelton" <len@...> wrote:
>
> Yes, it is a Roland. Sorry. I was thinking of the HP plotter that
I've have
> sitting on a shelf just waiting for a purpose.
> 
> 
> Maybe this is an old subject for this forum, but being relatively
new here,
> and for the sake of discussion, what was the way of the Dodo?

Yea, c'mon guys, not everyone here is a jaded oldster with original
posts in the 2 digits.

If you search the archives for something like "direct plotter pcb",
you may find more info. However, some of the problems are that when
the pen runs back over a track, it messes it up, and the line widths
are not reliable. Tough to run traces between IC pins, that sort of thing.

However, another idea was to coat the PCB in etch resistant paint,
specifically Dykem metal marking fluid, and use a scratch awl (diamond
or carbide tipped) in place of a pen in the plotter, and scratch the
outline of the traces. Search the archives for "scratch and etch".

Also check the Links and Files for more info on both.

Steve Greenfield

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Len Shelton" <len@...> wrote:
>
> Yes, it is a Roland. Sorry. I was thinking of the HP plotter that
I've have
> sitting on a shelf just waiting for a purpose.
>
> Maybe this is an old subject for this forum, but being relatively
new here,
> and for the sake of discussion, what was the way of the Dodo?

A dodo was a large, flightless bird, roughtly the size of a goose,
that lived on the island of Mauritius.  The dodo became extinct in
the late 1600s.  Rumor has it that the statement that was made when
the dodo became extinct was "It tastes like chicken.".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodo
> 
> I have a couple of small cnc routers built from retired robotics
equipment
> that I am happy with, so I am just being curious.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Len

As for the availability of plotters, a guy gave me two HP plotters
at a hamfest last year.  So, there are some of them out there, but
they appear to be undervalued.

Dave

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "D" <wa4qal@...> wrote:
>
> As for the availability of plotters, a guy gave me two HP plotters
> at a hamfest last year.  So, there are some of them out there, but
> they appear to be undervalued.

On a side note, I just posted some info about converting pen plotters
into vinyl/sign cutters on the signmaker list (I'm listowner there, too).
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/signmaker/

Website that sells swivel blade holders to fit many pen plotters,
software that does offset cut compensation (to compensate for the
caster effect), etc. Go take a look if interested.

I have a Calcomp 1044 pen plotter, 36" paper path, that I'm thinking
of getting a blade holder for. I already have a Graphtec vinyl cutter
that can cut 18" wide (out of 24" wide vinyl) so I'm in no hurry.

Steve Greenfield