Newb Catch-Up
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2006-05-30 by drachels1@nc.rr.com
2006-05-30 by Stefan Trethan
> I found this group last night while looking for ways to use a penThe established and most used methods currently are tiner transfer and
> plotter to apply etch resist to PCBs. It appears from my limited
> perspective that you guys have found a way to use an inkjet for this
> and much more? Would someone be so kind as to point me in the right
> direction to learn how you are doing this. This will solve a number
> of issues for me. Thank you!!!!
> DRR
2006-05-30 by dsv1486
>this
> On Tue, 30 May 2006 21:12:00 +0200, <drachels1@...> wrote:
>
> > I found this group last night while looking for ways to use a pen
> > plotter to apply etch resist to PCBs. It appears from my limited
> > perspective that you guys have found a way to use an inkjet for
> > and much more? Would someone be so kind as to point me in theright
> > direction to learn how you are doing this. This will solve anumber
> > of issues for me. Thank you!!!!and
> > DRR
>
>
> The established and most used methods currently are tiner transfer
> photo process.wouldn't see
> Inkjet printing is something we are still working on, but i
> why someone couldn't jump right into it.MISPRO
>
> It's basically all about the ink, Volkan found one that works,
> yellow, at inksupply.com.nozzles. See
> It's also about the head, you need a newer printer with many
> previous posts for example models, but all the newer ones withvariable
> drop size should be the right kind..printer
> You basically figure out a way how to feed the PCBs through the
> and you also need to cure the ink before etching with heat, astove plate
> works, when it starts to turn brown it is enough.i'm
>
> As you see, there isn't terribly much known about this so far. But
> confident everyone can duplicate it. I took me so long because ihad the
> wrong printer at first. With the right printer, and the right inkin the
> cartridge, it basically worked within 5 minutes.
>
> ST
>
2006-05-30 by Volkan Sahin
>this
> On Tue, 30 May 2006 21:12:00 +0200, <drachels1@...> wrote:
>
> > I found this group last night while looking for ways to use a pen
> > plotter to apply etch resist to PCBs. It appears from my limited
> > perspective that you guys have found a way to use an inkjet for
> > and much more? Would someone be so kind as to point me in theright
> > direction to learn how you are doing this. This will solve anumber
> > of issues for me. Thank you!!!!and
> > DRR
>
>
> The established and most used methods currently are tiner transfer
> photo process.wouldn't see
> Inkjet printing is something we are still working on, but i
> why someone couldn't jump right into it.MISPRO
>
> It's basically all about the ink, Volkan found one that works,
> yellow, at inksupply.com.nozzles. See
> It's also about the head, you need a newer printer with many
> previous posts for example models, but all the newer ones withvariable
> drop size should be the right kind..printer
> You basically figure out a way how to feed the PCBs through the
> and you also need to cure the ink before etching with heat, astove plate
> works, when it starts to turn brown it is enough.i'm
>
> As you see, there isn't terribly much known about this so far. But
> confident everyone can duplicate it. I took me so long because ihad the
> wrong printer at first. With the right printer, and the right inkin the
> cartridge, it basically worked within 5 minutes.Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Links, Files, and Photos:
>
> ST
>
2006-05-30 by Robert Hedan
> -----Message d'origine-----...
> De : Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com] De la part de Stefan Trethan
> Envoyé : mai 30 2006 16:36
> À : Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
> Objet : Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Newb Catch-Up
>
>
>
> The established and most used methods currently are tiner
> transfer and
> photo process.
>Don't get confused with Stefan's Austrian accent. That's his way of saying
> ST
2006-05-30 by Stefan Trethan
> Yellow is the best magenta is also ok but forget cyan. If your black inkYellow seems much more like a laquer, while black seems more like pigments
> is color black (mixture of yellow, magenta, cyan) it can also be etch
> resistant but don't expect same performance as yellow one.
> Volkan
2006-05-31 by Jim Larsen - AL7FS
2006-05-31 by dsv1486
>of
> do the other colored inks work as I have ordered the 4 bottle set
> the mispro inks 2oz size.pen
>
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Trethan"
> <stefan_trethan@> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 30 May 2006 21:12:00 +0200, <drachels1@> wrote:
> >
> > > I found this group last night while looking for ways to use a
> > > plotter to apply etch resist to PCBs. It appears from mylimited
> > > perspective that you guys have found a way to use an inkjetfor
> thistransfer
> > > and much more? Would someone be so kind as to point me in the
> right
> > > direction to learn how you are doing this. This will solve a
> number
> > > of issues for me. Thank you!!!!
> > > DRR
> >
> >
> > The established and most used methods currently are tiner
> andBut
> > photo process.
> > Inkjet printing is something we are still working on, but i
> wouldn't see
> > why someone couldn't jump right into it.
> >
> > It's basically all about the ink, Volkan found one that works,
> MISPRO
> > yellow, at inksupply.com.
> > It's also about the head, you need a newer printer with many
> nozzles. See
> > previous posts for example models, but all the newer ones with
> variable
> > drop size should be the right kind..
> > You basically figure out a way how to feed the PCBs through the
> printer
> > and you also need to cure the ink before etching with heat, a
> stove plate
> > works, when it starts to turn brown it is enough.
> >
> > As you see, there isn't terribly much known about this so far.
> i'mink
> > confident everyone can duplicate it. I took me so long because i
> had the
> > wrong printer at first. With the right printer, and the right
> in the
> > cartridge, it basically worked within 5 minutes.
> >
> > ST
> >
>
2006-05-31 by dsv1486
>of
> do the other colored inks work as I have ordered the 4 bottle set
> the mispro inks 2oz size.pen
>
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Trethan"
> <stefan_trethan@> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 30 May 2006 21:12:00 +0200, <drachels1@> wrote:
> >
> > > I found this group last night while looking for ways to use a
> > > plotter to apply etch resist to PCBs. It appears from mylimited
> > > perspective that you guys have found a way to use an inkjetfor
> thistransfer
> > > and much more? Would someone be so kind as to point me in the
> right
> > > direction to learn how you are doing this. This will solve a
> number
> > > of issues for me. Thank you!!!!
> > > DRR
> >
> >
> > The established and most used methods currently are tiner
> andBut
> > photo process.
> > Inkjet printing is something we are still working on, but i
> wouldn't see
> > why someone couldn't jump right into it.
> >
> > It's basically all about the ink, Volkan found one that works,
> MISPRO
> > yellow, at inksupply.com.
> > It's also about the head, you need a newer printer with many
> nozzles. See
> > previous posts for example models, but all the newer ones with
> variable
> > drop size should be the right kind..
> > You basically figure out a way how to feed the PCBs through the
> printer
> > and you also need to cure the ink before etching with heat, a
> stove plate
> > works, when it starts to turn brown it is enough.
> >
> > As you see, there isn't terribly much known about this so far.
> i'mink
> > confident everyone can duplicate it. I took me so long because i
> had the
> > wrong printer at first. With the right printer, and the right
> in the
> > cartridge, it basically worked within 5 minutes.
> >
> > ST
> >
>
2006-05-31 by Stefan Trethan
> Thanks for the info, the people at inksupply.com are great they letBad idea, only the epsons are considered a good choice because they use a
> me change my order to a 4oz bottle of yellow ink. I also purchased a
> lexmark z22 and 3200 at a thrift store for about 3 dollars each, I
> guess this will become my testbed for direct printing. what do you
> guys think about the lexmark route??
2006-06-01 by Steve
>
> Thanks for the info, the people at inksupply.com are great they let
> me change my order to a 4oz bottle of yellow ink. I also purchased a
> lexmark z22 and 3200 at a thrift store for about 3 dollars each, I
> guess this will become my testbed for direct printing. what do you
> guys think about the lexmark route??
2006-06-01 by kilocycles
>---snip---
> On Wed, 31 May 2006 21:49:07 +0200, dsv1486 <darrell.vandenberg@...>
> wrote:
>
> Bad idea, only the epsons are considered a good choice because theyuse a
> piezo head. It may work, but i don't think anyone knows for sure.---snip---
>
> ST
2006-06-01 by Stefan Trethan
> Stefan,
> Please go back and take a look at my previous request in Message #
> 14557. I was in the hospital for awhile, and then had surgery a
> couple of weeks ago, and I've missed the details on exactly which
> Epson models are good for direct print, and which after-market ink you
> used (same as Volkan's?).
> I'd really appreciate it!
> Thanks,
> Ted
2006-06-01 by Lez
> The ink must be cured. More research must be put into that (but nobodyI'm in the UK, about 6 month ago the market was swamped with little
> seems to have volunteered to build that SMD/curing oven, or even make one
> too and copy me the software, so...). So far i only put the PCB on the
2006-06-01 by Lez
2006-06-01 by Andrew Thornber
> The ink must be cured. More research must be put into that (but nobodyI'm in the UK, about 6 month ago the market was swamped with little
> seems to have volunteered to build that SMD/curing oven, or even make one
> too and copy me the software, so...). So far i only put the PCB on the
2006-06-01 by Lez
> Got one!Ha you got the delux model, mine has no thermostat, just a heat
>
>
>
> Works well, but need to take the manual thermostat out as it is all over the
> shop!
>
2006-06-01 by Stefan Trethan
> I'm in the UK, about 6 month ago the market was swamped with littleI got plenty of ovens in the attic just waiting to be converted!
> ovens that had a heater top and bottom, I think they are radiant infra
> red, about 800w(400w*2) on uk 220v
> I think they would make good little pcb ovens, once a thermostat is
> added.
> retail for about £10 / $20 in cut price stores and carboots(large
> communial yard sale in a field)
2006-06-01 by lcdpublishing
> I got plenty of ovens in the attic just waiting to be converted!
> But no time to make a controller.
>
> ST
>
2006-06-03 by Christopher Hart
On Wednesday 31 May 2006 16:21, Stefan Trethan wrote:
> On Wed, 31 May 2006 21:49:07 +0200, dsv1486 <darrell.vandenberg@...>
>
> wrote:
> > Thanks for the info, the people at inksupply.com are great they let
> > me change my order to a 4oz bottle of yellow ink. I also purchased a
> > lexmark z22 and 3200 at a thrift store for about 3 dollars each, I
> > guess this will become my testbed for direct printing. what do you
> > guys think about the lexmark route??
>
> Bad idea, only the epsons are considered a good choice because they use a
> piezo head. It may work, but i don't think anyone knows for sure.
>
> ST
2006-06-07 by lists
> > The ink must be cured. More research must be put into that (but nobodyThere was an article in Elektor magazine on how to do that, except it was
> > seems to have volunteered to build that SMD/curing oven, or even make one
> > too and copy me the software, so...). So far i only put the PCB on the
> I'm in the UK, about 6 month ago the market was swamped with little
> ovens that had a heater top and bottom, I think they are radiant infra
> red, about 800w(400w*2) on uk 220v
> I think they would make good little pcb ovens, once a thermostat is added.