Homebrew PCBs

Is a 600dpi (HP Laserjet 6L) printer a high enough quality for doing 
toner transfer?

Mike

On 25 Nov 2005, at 15:32, upand_at_them wrote:

> Is a 600dpi (HP Laserjet 6L) printer a high enough quality for doing
> toner transfer?
>
> Mike

Yes indeed.

John

Good.  I just bought one on Ebay.

Mike

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, whoop@b... wrote:

>
> 
> On 25 Nov 2005, at 15:32, upand_at_them wrote:
> 
> > Is a 600dpi (HP Laserjet 6L) printer a high enough quality for doing
> > toner transfer?
> >
> > Mike
> 
> Yes indeed.
> 
> John
>

On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 17:12:34 +0100, <whoop@...> wrote:

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>> Is a 600dpi (HP Laserjet 6L) printer a high enough quality for doing
>
>> toner transfer?
>
>>
>
>> Mike
>
>
> Yes indeed.
>
>
> John


Second that.
Will work nicely for 0.5mm pitch ICs.

ST

upand_at_them wrote:

>Is a 600dpi (HP Laserjet 6L) printer a high enough quality for doing 
>toner transfer?
>
>Mike
>
>  
>

  Yep works well.  For future reference, when it needs a new toner try 
the $20 cheap replacement from Ebay.  The clone cartridge I have 
actually makes better boards more easily.  Likely a lower melt point and 
less fine toner..

Alan

The refill kit, or a new cartridge?

Mike


--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Alan King <alan@n...> wrote:
>
> upand_at_them wrote:
> 
> >Is a 600dpi (HP Laserjet 6L) printer a high enough quality for 
doing 
> >toner transfer?
> >
> >Mike
> >
> >  
> >
> 
>   Yep works well.  For future reference, when it needs a new toner 
try 
> the $20 cheap replacement from Ebay.  The clone cartridge I have 
> actually makes better boards more easily.  Likely a lower melt 
point and 

> less fine toner..
> 
> Alan
>

> >
> >> Is a 600dpi (HP Laserjet 6L) printer a high enough quality for 
doing
> >> toner transfer?

> 
> Second that.

I'll third that.  Also ebay has some kits to fix it if it decices to 
pick up all the pages at once.

Mike

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "mikegw20" <mikegw20@h...> 
wrote:
> > >> Is a 600dpi (HP Laserjet 6L) printer a high enough quality
> > Second that.
>I'll third that.

That's funny, I just grabbed the same thing locally for transfers. 
I've been fighting with a couple panel transfers on metal, so I 
haven't had a decent chance to compare it to my previous one (Sharp 
FO-2850). Good to see others have it as well.

The Sharp did good transfers, but I broke a roller in it with a 
cleaning sheet and couldn't trust the feeds afterward, plus the 
drivers stop at 98SE.

I'm not sure what toner is in this 6L, but I'll probably look for the 
aforementioned generic when the time comes. I would have gone with HP 
toner, as Tom Gootee (with the PCB toner site) recommended it over a 
third party cartridge he tried. I'm also going to grab that HP feed 
fix. This one definitely has that bug.

                                      -George

PS- I've recently attached a smooth eighth inch aluminum plate to my 
iron with JB Weld adhesive. It seems to make a noticeable difference 
and gets a more uniform transfer, as well as taking care of the 
problem with the steam hole voids. It hasn't been on there long, but 
it looks promising.

>
>I'm not sure what toner is in this 6L, but I'll probably look for the 
>aforementioned generic when the time comes. I would have gone with HP 
>toner, as Tom Gootee (with the PCB toner site) recommended it over a 
>third party cartridge he tried. I'm also going to grab that HP feed 
>fix. This one definitely has that bug.
>
>  
>

  Note that his info was for an older HP printer, 300 DPI I believe.  
The 600 DPI for the 6L is supposed to have ultrafine toner in the HP 
cartridge, which is fine for printing, gives sharp edges and high 
resolution.  Little doubt the generics have lower res toner, probably 
still passable for 600 DPI but thicker, and easier transfers.  Likely a 
little lower melting point than the HP toner too..

Alan

On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 04:58:31 +0100, soffee83 <soffee83@...> wrote:

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>
>
> I'm not sure what toner is in this 6L, but I'll probably look for the
>
> aforementioned generic when the time comes. I would have gone with HP
>
> toner, as Tom Gootee (with the PCB toner site) recommended it over a
>
> third party cartridge he tried. I'm also going to grab that HP feed
>
> fix. This one definitely has that bug.
>
>
>                                       -George


I have had much trouble with cheap remanufactured toner in a old IIID.  
Mainly the density was crap.
Much better with lexmark or HP brand ones.

ST

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Alan King <alan@n...> wrote:
>   Note that his info was for an older HP printer, 300 DPI I believe. 

Alan,

Thanks! Yes it was I recall. I think he was on a LaserJet4. I remember 
looking at toner and I think the 3&4 had the same thing. Looks like 
the 5&6 share a cart too. I'm not sure if they would use the same 
stuff inside or not, but mine seems to do well with whatever is in 
there. I think this one even does better with a slightly lighter 
contrast. Luckily, the thick wide areas are the main things I usually 
had trouble with on toner transfers and they were the easiest to touch 
up if necessary. I'm planning to start cutting back on those anyway 
and just masking the large spots with marker or doing hatch patterns 
when I can.

Was there a particular generic you liked? Ebay had some $22 dollar 
ones in a bright green, blue and white package, but there were also a 
few others.
                               -Take Care
George

soffee83 wrote:

>--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Alan King <alan@n...> wrote:
>  
>
>>  Note that his info was for an older HP printer, 300 DPI I believe. 
>>    
>>
>
>Alan,
>
>Thanks! Yes it was I recall. I think he was on a LaserJet4. I remember 
>looking at toner and I think the 3&4 had the same thing. Looks like 
>the 5&6 share a cart too. I'm not sure if they would use the same 
>stuff inside or not, but mine seems to do well with whatever is in 
>there. I think this one even does better with a slightly lighter 
>contrast. Luckily, the thick wide areas are the main things I usually 
>had trouble with on toner transfers and they were the easiest to touch 
>up if necessary. I'm planning to start cutting back on those anyway 
>and just masking the large spots with marker or doing hatch patterns 
>when I can.
>
>Was there a particular generic you liked? Ebay had some $22 dollar 
>ones in a bright green, blue and white package, but there were also a 
>few others.
>                               -Take Care
>George    
>
>  
>
  Can't tell, I don't see anyone with the picture of the cartridge as I 
remember it.  It had the cartridge partially open to show the drum, and 
was green not the real high resolution blue.  Likely one of the people 
still selling them, but they've changed the picture.

  I would imagine that most any of the cheap toners will be roughly the 
same.  The HP toner for 6L has a fine particle size, that is why it 
lasts longer, you cover more area with the same total volume of toner.  
The thicker cheap toner makes it a little easier to transfer, even when 
it stays on the page some of it is more likely to have transferred.  
Plus I'm pretty sure off the top of my head that the HP 6L cartridge was 
spec'd to have a higher melting point toner, and for sure the cheap 
stuff melts at the lower temps, so again a little easier to transfer 
than the real 6L toner.  Not that it can't work with the original cart, 
but no sense paying extra for that when it's time to refil if the clones 
work even a little better for transfer..

Alan