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Re: Paper won't come off...was:Gerber to Laser Printer How???

2004-11-11 by Bob Weiss

For removing the toner once you etched the board, I use Laquer 
thinner. it comes right off with no effort. 



--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "mikezcnc" <eemikez@c...> 
wrote:
> 
> Yes! I just wanted pepole to see those steps one more time and 
> remember them. As simple as your method is, that is what makes it 
so 
> great. We had discussions here for days how to remove that paper 
with 
> suggestions going into etching the paper shreds away...
> 
> My paper leftovers were so stubborn that I could never lose them 
> completely, now matter how I rubbed.
> I know there are many methods that people are very happy with- I 
> myself am tweaking the fuser thing out of curiosity, but a simple, 
> successful and economical combination for a TT (for me) is:
> 1. Staples paper mentioned before-Tom Gootee -he reported it here 
> first.
> 
> 2. GBC H200 laminator with detailes how to modify it if you had 
to: 
> www.pulsar.gs they were first to report on that laminator, albeit 
> using their custom paper. However considering how much money I put 
> into this project I would have been better off buying his transfer 
> sheets. My credit goes to bringing the Staples paper and nd GBC 
> together and until I can buy a conductive ink printer on ebay, 
this 
> is it (that should be in, err, 20 years?).
> 
> 3. Bob Weiss eraser method to remove the paper shreds from the 
etched 
> PCB.
> 
> 4. There was something listed here to remove the laminated toner 
but 
> I don't remember what it was. The usual acetone is just too 
terrible. 
> Maybe it was Stefan's suggestion to use a paint thinner?
> 
> 5. looking at the fuser after having it removed it is a very neat 
> idea for people who cannot get access to H200. The fuser looks 
very 
> robust.
> 
> 6. There are many neat ideas that other people suggested but I 
cannot 
> recall any at this time. 
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Weiss" <BWeiss@p...> 
wrote:
> > 
> > You got the steps correct. I was surprised myself when it 
started 
> > taking it off with ease.. For long straight traces that had alot 
of 
> > paper still in between, I just rubbed with the traces and it it 
was 
> > off in no time. You don't even have to rub hard. The problem was 
> > trying to get your thumb to get in there.
> > 
> > Let us know how you guys make out with it.
> > 
> > 
> > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "mikezcnc" <eemikez@c...> 
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > > Bob,
> > > 
> > > That is an asome suggestion, a true breakthru in the TT 
process. 
> I 
> > am 
> > > using Staples paper with GBC H200, soaking in cold water for 
an 
> > hour 
> > > and removal of paper was difficult and never complete. With 
your 
> > > suggestion I have no doubt I will be able to have better 
results. 
> > > Summarizing your observations:
> > > 1. Warm water (not hot, but warm). Some people claimed that 
hot 
> > water 
> > > does it- I never believed that although I never tried it)
> > > 2. Soap (dishwasher soap) - obvious now.
> > > 3. Pencil eraser. - That is is a true innovation!
> > > 
> > > Thanks for sharing, Mike
> > > 
> > > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Weiss" 
<BWeiss@p...> 
> > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Last night I was working on a double sided board and I have 
> some 
> > > > traces that are 8mil apart. I too was having a problem with 
> > getting 
> > > > the paper out in between the traces and didn't want to rub 
too 
> > hard 
> > > > for fear of ripping up the toner. I let it soak in warm 
soapy 
> > water 
> > > > for about 1/2 hour and then used a pencil eraser (on the end 
of 
> > a 
> > > #2 
> > > > lead pencil) and rubbed where it wasn't comming off. To my 
> > surprise 
> > > > it works like a champ. It takes the paper right off and does 
no 
> > > harm 
> > > > to the traces. I did notice though that you HAVE TO DO IT 
while 
> > its 
> > > > wet. If you try doing it when its dry it will mess up the 
> toner. 
> > I 
> > > > was even able to get the paper out in the drill holes. I 
> usually 
> > > > just let them go and etch as is. But I looked at the board 
> under 
> > a 
> > > > magnifying glass and its perfect!! No problems with the 
traces 
> > at 
> > > > all and no paper! Try it out and let me know how it works 
for 
> > you.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >

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