Homebrew PCBs

Hello,

Maybe I'm missing something here...

If we're using ICSP, which uses only 5 pins; why do we want to give 
up board space (and pay more for not only the connector(s), but also 
extra holes when we eventually mfr. the board) to use a 2x5 
connector? I can take that same loose serial DE9 to 2x5 assy. and 
have it become a DE9 to 5PMTA in a minute or two... (a 5pin header 
and a 5p MTA.1 IDC connector are much lower cost.) 

I guess if board space and cost is not a problem, and volume of the 
product IS high(but isn't that an oxymoron?<G>); then being able to 
use old pc "pullouts" for programming DOES make some sense...

Ballendo

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Mucha" <dave_mucha@y...> 
wrote:
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Toft <toftat@c...> 
> wrote:
> > Thanks for the replies guys! if I can't find the ribbon 
connector, I
> > will just plug up the unused pins and just use some 6 conductor 
> ribbon,
> > it only uses 5 conductors anyway. 
> > -- 
> > Anthony Toft <toftat@c...>
> 
> 
> A fast solution is to use an old 9 pin serial connector from an Old 
> PC.   When you pull the motherboard out, there is always a serial 
> connector with ribbon cable that is lose in the case.
> 
> Dave