I used to have an entry level LPKF, the machine cost US$11,500 and with all the tooling and options it came in at US$19,200. It did a terrible job, and was a royal pain to use. We ended up putting it in a closet as the worst mistake ever and then sold it off a couple years later. I think we might have done a lot better spending the money on an Excellon drill and a chem system. Here are the problems we had. Its been over 10 years, so they may have been solved by now. 1. The machine was hideously slow, it took about 6-8 hours of milling time to make a two layer 4"X6" pcb. 2. The main cutter, a triangle type of affair would wear out in about 2-3 hours of run time. At $30/bit that got really spendy. 3. The software was really difficult to use and it had a high learning curve. 4. Tool changes were very tedious and alignment was a real challenge, as you had to make cuts, then adjust, and repeat over and over. 5. The through hole process required such large vias that it was totally impractical. 6. The syringe and vacuum for the silver paste was so combersome, we stopped using it after a month. 7. The vacuum was so noisy, that we could not work in an adjacent lab due to the noise. 8. The board alignment backer was again very marginal. 9. A tech had to be around to monitor is almost contiuously. As such the pcb's we made with it were roughly double the cost of having them done in 3 days by a vendor. 10. The software had tool monitoring. However, you had to program in the run time parameters by hand. If a tool ran too long, one could figure that the resulting pcb would be full of shorts and opens. It is possible we had a very early design of the LPKF. It had a lot of good ideas coupled with poor implementation. It was almost as if someone designed it in a garage, and then did zero testing before putting it on the market. If the LPKF had been $3000-$5000 instead of close to $20,000, a lot of the above issues might not be so bad. Once the novelty wore off, there was only 1 tech who felt it worthwhile to run, and then only on through hole boards with large traces. LPKF did have a more capable machine which sold for around $60,000. Looking back, thats probably what we should have went for. It probably would have worked much better. Getting back to your question, if you solve the LPKF problems, $10K would seem to make it a winner. If not, in order to get some decent sales, figure on $3K-$5K with a bunch of advertising. Thanks Ron
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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: What would you pay for a cnc pcb mill/drill kit?
2004-03-13 by Ron Amundson
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