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RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: re making a dxf into cam OT

2002-04-20 by Daryl Owen

John

Can we please stop this non-sense. I getting a headache reading
all this stuff, that has little or no value to what this group
is about. So if anyone verbally attacks you or your products 
using this forum, please don't respond. Its not worth it and I
am running out of aspirin. 

Any one who uses this forum to attack anyone, in my book, has little
or no credibility. Period! 

I personally think you charge a fair price for your products. 
Yes, I could possibly locate similar items on the web for free, 
however there is a cost associate with that as well (its call time).

So, thank you John to the contribution you give this group. Its is
obvious that you have a vast amount of knowledge on PCB building, and
from what I have seen here, are willing to help anyone who asks.

I am really looking forward to seeing the plans to your PCB Mill.
(mailed you a check about 2 days ago) I am planning on building 
this next month, and will inform everyone here on my progress.

Thanks for listening to me snivel.

Daryl Owen

-----Original Message-----
From: crankorgan [mailto:john@...]
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 3:33 PM
To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: re making a dxf into cam OT


Hi Tim,
       Well a business is suppose tomakes money. A nonprofit is 
suppose to break even. Now what about my baby? I put the incomming 
money into more parts to make new machines. I average a new item per 
month. Now if I was to post everything for FREE! Then how would it 
work.
     Let me seeeeee Ahhhh Yesss Like the BBS I ran for three years
for FREE. Cost me $12,000 plus lots of time. My new idea works alot 
better. People who buy a set of plans cause more plans to be made 
avalible. I retired at 37 years old. I went through my savings 
helping others, Now I am wiser! I think we need a name for this kind 
of animal. It don't walk like a duck so we can't call it a duck. We
need a name Hmmmm!  Maybe an indirect group effort, IGE


                                      President of IGE

                                             John   





--- In Homebrew_PCBs@y..., "Tim Goldstein" <timg@k...> wrote:
> John,
> 
> Based upon Enron, Kmart, and many others making money is not the 
deciding
> factor in whether you are a business. You offer a product for sale. 
That
> makes you a businessman by default. Like it or not. Now if you just 
posted
> your stuff on the web for free I would likely agree that you are 
not running
> a business.
> 
> I am not commenting on whether your product is good or bad as I 
have not
> seen your plans. I love the concept of a low cost "starter" CNC 
package. I
> think it is something the hobby sorely needs. I feel many people 
would be
> better served if they got something to start learning with than 
spent years
> in analysis paralysis because this stuff can be so expensive.
> 
> Tim
> [Denver, CO]
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> > Tony,
> >      What you did was a stunt! I have a tax number and I keep 
records
> > of every sale. But I am nonprofit. I retired at 37 and I am now an
> > old man of 50. I share my plans and ideas with other. I charge a 
small
> > fee for my plans. I use the money to buy more parts. I work 18 
hours
> > a day 7 days a week. I love what I am doing. It's my life and I 
will
> > do what I want! So if anyone want to talk Milling Circuit boards 
I am
> > here for that! I am not a businessman, they make money!
> >
> >                                  John



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