John -
Rather an extreme reaction when all I was doing was offering you sound (and
free!) advice. Don't knock it. Ask any successful salesman & he/she will
tell you the same thing.
At 10:33 17/04/2002 +0000, you wrote:
accept their money. Ergo, you run a business. Maybe not incorporated, but
certainly a business. The IRS will certainly view it as a business
(assuming of course that you're a good boy & tell them about the income);
so will anyone seeing your website & noticing that you charge for stuff.
anticipating that the extra $2 would cover the additional overseas postage,
as your $18 price already included US postage & didn't specify the extra
for overseas. I can do the sums - you ended up *in pocket*, rather than
*out of pocket* on that deal. Just shows how easy it is for you to
misrepresent a situation by leaving out vital information. Having seen that
happen in your interactions with me, I have no reason to take your version
of your interactions with this other Canadian guy at face value either.
value-for-money that I had received, that is true. I wouldn't describe that
as whining. Particularly as I didn't ask for a refund - I wrote that one
off to bad experience.
that I was obviously unhappy with what you had sent me. Perhaps if you had,
we wouldn't have ended up having this conversation.
or not. You could save yourself all the hassle you are complaining about by
doing what many others, including myself, do - put their plans etc. up on
their websites at no charge, for the benefit of all.
You can't have it both ways.
Best regards,
Tony
Rather an extreme reaction when all I was doing was offering you sound (and
free!) advice. Don't knock it. Ask any successful salesman & he/she will
tell you the same thing.
At 10:33 17/04/2002 +0000, you wrote:
>Tony,You advertise stuff for sale. You have customers. You sell them stuff. You
> I don't run a company. This is a hobby! I offer my plans to
>people who want them.
accept their money. Ergo, you run a business. Maybe not incorporated, but
certainly a business. The IRS will certainly view it as a business
(assuming of course that you're a good boy & tell them about the income);
so will anyone seeing your website & noticing that you charge for stuff.
>When people ask lots of questions, seemYou're right - I sent you a $20 bill (or was it 2 tens?), not $18,
>unsure, or pull a stunt. I don't want to get involved with them.
>I learned from people like YOU! You sent cash in the envelope. You
>did not send the correct amount. I shipped anyway.
anticipating that the extra $2 would cover the additional overseas postage,
as your $18 price already included US postage & didn't specify the extra
for overseas. I can do the sums - you ended up *in pocket*, rather than
*out of pocket* on that deal. Just shows how easy it is for you to
misrepresent a situation by leaving out vital information. Having seen that
happen in your interactions with me, I have no reason to take your version
of your interactions with this other Canadian guy at face value either.
>Then you startedIf you mean I gave you feedback on what I considered to be the low
>whining you got robbed.
value-for-money that I had received, that is true. I wouldn't describe that
as whining. Particularly as I didn't ask for a refund - I wrote that one
off to bad experience.
>So now I am very careful who I sell to. NowI notice you didn't bother to offer me a refund though, despite the fact
>when somebody pulls your stunt! I send the money back.
that I was obviously unhappy with what you had sent me. Perhaps if you had,
we wouldn't have ended up having this conversation.
>In over a yearIf you don't want the hassle, don't go into business - be it in a small way
>and a half I have only had one complaint. That was from YOU! They rest
>are from people who have not bought anything! They want me to cater
>to they long list of questions and conditions. This is a Hobby! I am
>very busy here!
or not. You could save yourself all the hassle you are complaining about by
doing what many others, including myself, do - put their plans etc. up on
their websites at no charge, for the benefit of all.
You can't have it both ways.
Best regards,
Tony