Like the surface flatness or lack of it, the adhesion of the copper to the backing will vary with different types and brands of copper clad. I have seen some that was so bad that a 0.1" wide trace with a 0.2" pad on the end of it would almostly instantly peel off with the application of a 700 degree F iron. Almost every repair job on those boards required replacing the foil. Others are more robust and can take higher temps for longer periods with no problems.
Of course, smaller traces will lift off faster. I sometimes etch some lettering into the foil on home brew boards and I always use a fat font and the bold setting. It is best not to touch this lettering with the soldering iron.
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Of course, smaller traces will lift off faster. I sometimes etch some lettering into the foil on home brew boards and I always use a fat font and the bold setting. It is best not to touch this lettering with the soldering iron.
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On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 7:01 PM, DJ Delorie dj@...
[Homebrew_PCBs] <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
[Homebrew_PCBs] <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> That's because the tarnish is copper *oxide*, and as I mentionedOh yes, it was exactly looking at the chemical reactions which
> earlier, HCl needs an oxidizer - so it etches the copper oxide but can't
> etch the copper.
prompted me to try HCl as a board cleaner.
> Be careful, though, HCl is a nasty chemical to workIndeed, but less nasty than I had worried about. One of the first
> around.
things I did was put a single drop on my skin to see just how nasty.
It did not really seem to do anything in the few seconds I left it
there before washing it off. Vapors in the eyes and lungs, those I am
worried about. Running a fan over the work area seems to take care of
that.
> Me, I use a green scrubbie. Prepping a board for TT or UV is more thanGood to know. I was trying it on some boards that I had already
> just cleaning the copper - you need to make a mechanically rough surface
> for the toner to cling, and the scrubbie does that. Toner won't stick
> well (or at all) to a mirror finish (which is why it releases from
> transparencies).
etched, handled carelessly, and then let sit for a week.
> Unless you're doing fine-pitch surface mount parts, in which case theI can see where that would be a problem. I am only *just* making the
> uneven surface of the solder messes you up a lot.
jump from TH to SMD, and I'm starting with the coarsest pitch
components I can find. It would certainly be possible to drag the
iron away from the pads on fine-pitch parts and leave them bare.
> Liquid tin is a lot easier to do, too, and you don't risk lifting theI was worried about lifting traces too. I tried to be pretty brutal
> copper traces off the pcb.
on my test boards and was rather surprised that I didn't lift any
traces. I suppose this depends on the thickness of your copper and
how well it is bonded to the substrate.
I've read conflicting reports on the Liquid Tin. Some people love it,
other people claim it provides little to no long-term protection for
your boards and doesn't really help with soldering SMD parts either.
One thing is for sure though -- it does make your boards look
beautiful!
-p.