On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:26:26 +0100, you wrote: >On 30/07/2013 04:29, Robin Whittle wrote: >> Hi Dave, >> >> Thanks for this information. >> >> I think your attempt to laser print onto copper is doomed to failure. >> As far as I know there is no way of transferring the toner from the drum >> to any conductive surface. > >When I worked for Rank-Xerox in the 1960s, Xerox had a technique using >their original 1385 flat-plate system for direct printing onto copper. >They had some documentation for using it for making PCBs. > >Leon Around 1969 Bell Labs, and maybe Xerox, was experimenting with using a process camera with the photographic plate replaced with a photoreceptor plate to reduce big engineering drawings for archival storage. The image was formed on the photoreceptor, a dark slide was inserted into the "film" holder. The holder was slid into the side of a box containing toner. The slide was pulled and the box flipped over several times to allow toner to stick to the plate. The plate was then placed in a charge transfer station and the toner deposited on a sheet of mylar or paper. I never heard what voltage they were using. The image was then "fixed" on the paper/mylar using a very fine mist of trichloroethelene. I got them to add a step to the process. They used the transfer station to transfer the image of a PCB drawing from the paper/mylar to a sheet of copper. They then misted the copper to "fix" the toner to the copper. Worked really well with IIRC amonimum persulfate etchant. Last I heard of the project they were waiting for a new toner formulation from Xerox. Shortly thereafter we moved out of that building to a monster complex shared with Western Electric and I lost touch. Back in the early days of laser printers fuser failures weren't uncommon and the images were in good shape when they came out of the printer (assuming they came face up out the back and didn't get turned over and smeared after the fuser station). I've thought for years it would be interesting to try disabling the fuser on a laser printer and trying to transfer the toner from the paper to a PCB using a homebrew electrostatic transfer station and mister. Yet another project that will probably stay in the arena of thought. Keith Bowers WB4LSJ- Thomasville, NC
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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Easy Fast Laser Print DIY Circuit Boards - Dave's toner-transfer freezing technique
2013-07-30 by kabowers@...
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