Hello Art, Thanks for your advice. How did you end up using the 30 degree V-bit? Have you tried the other v-bits such as 45, 60 and 90? I am trying to understand how you went about the process. Whether you bought all the v-bits and just tried them all to figure out which one was best or if you were recommended that particular v-bit by someone. About the CEM board, I read that it is easier on the drill and mill bits. But, I also read that it emits a weird smell when being cut. Did you notice something like that? BTW, do you know if the fumes from cutting the CEM boards are carcinogenic? I have been told this "there are a zillion carcinogenic phenolic compounds...pentachlorophenol for example." Just curious, if you gave this any thought. Thanks again, Joe On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Art Eckstein < art.eckstein@...> wrote: > ** > > > Joe, > Yep, you have run into a couple of problems with > boards being level. It has been found the boards > will "bow" up in the middle when clamped on the > edges and FR$ has (I think) a 10% tolerance for > board thickness. The best way to hold down the board is by vacuum. > > As for the "paper" board, you want CEM type as > opposed to the FR4. I get mine from a seller on > Ebay > (<http://stores.ebay.com/PCB-Laminates-Copper-Clad?_trksid=p2047675.l2563 > >). > There are a few "autoleveling" packages that > probe the board height before doing the isolation > milling and these seem to work quite well. I use > Eagle and a ULP called pcb-gcode.ulp with autoleveling to make my boards. > For fine work, I use a 30� V bit, and for general > non critical stuff, a 60� one from <http://www.drewtronics.net/>. > > HTH > Art > Country Bubba > > > At 09:01 AM 12/13/2012, you wrote: > >Hello, > > > >I am trying to mill the pcb (FR4) with a taig. > > > >I did not have much luck with a uniform trace isolation even when I hold > >the board flat down by clamping down on the board edges. It appears that > >the pcb surface might not be uniform and that might be the reason why I > >cannot remove/mill out the copper layer consistently. I read about using a > >foot (http://hackaday.com/2011/04/22/pcb-milling-tutorial/) to push the > pcb > >down while milling, but, that was a bit too much for my skill level. > > > >I read somewhere that it is easier to just paint the whole circuit board > >with some paint and then remove/scribe the paint off wherever the traces > >were being milled. This process is described here: > >http://reprap.org/wiki/Scratch_n%27_Etch_PCBs . Just wanted to check if > >anyone has experience with this? > > > >On a different note, I read that "paper phenolic" boards are better/easier > >on the mill and drill bits. I checked digikey and mouser and could not > come > >up with any "paper phenolic" boards. Wondering if anyone knows of a > >supplier for "paper phenolic" boards? > > > >I used the EM2E8-0625-90VC bit from > >http://www.precisebits.com/products/carbidebits/scoreengrave.asp to mill > >the board. Maybe, I need to use a 45 degree bit as noted in this article: > > > http://millpcbs.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=23&Itemid=47 > > > >Any thoughts or advice, please? > > > >Thanks > >Joe > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Milling Boards
2012-12-13 by joe M
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