99% "without further purification" if you read <http://pubs.acs.org/doi/suppl/10.1021/ja209267c/suppl_file/ja209267c_si_001.pdf> Donald. -- *Plain Text* email -- it's an accessibility issue () no proprietary attachments; no html mail /\ ascii ribbon campaign - <www.asciiribbon.org> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave" <wa4qal@...> > To: "Homebrew PCBs" <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 11:08:37 AM > Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Silver Ink > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Mark Lerman <mlerman@...> wrote: > > > > The silver acetate seems to go for about $2 USD per gram from > > "legitimate" sources, less from ebay. > > Is that lab grade or technical grade? There's a HUGE price > difference between the 99% purity stuff, and the 99.9% purity > stuff. :-) > > For that matter, has anyone researched how to produce Silver > Acetate themselves? It's probably a lot more complex than > simply dropping some Silver coins into a bottle of vinegar. > > Ok, having looked it up on wikipedia, it looks like there's a > three step process (Silver + Nitric Acid->Silver Nitrate + > Sodium Carbonate -> Silver Carbonate + Acetic Acid -> > Silver Acetate.). That's not too complex. I think the real > problem with the cost is that the price of Silver is rather > incredible at the moment. > > > They mix 1 g with 2.5ml of ammonium hydroxide plus .2ml formic > > acid. Assuming you can get 2 ml of ink from the mixture and that > > the cost of the ammonium hydroxide and formic acid are negligible > > (???), the cost would be about $1 USD/ml. > > Ammonium Hydroxide is simply ammonia in water. > > Formic Acid isn't too hard to synthesize (via a couple of routes), > so it should be reasonably cheap. Don't get it on you. It's > the active ingredient in bee and ant stings. > > > Since you are only drawing traces, it shouldn't be too > > expensive, especially if you can reuse any ink wasted in head > > cleaning. Anyone interested in a group buy of the chemicals? > > I doubt that the cleaned ink from the head could be reused. But, > a little care in batching up the plots could minimize waste. > > > Mark > > Dave <- Not a chemist, but I occasionally bathe in H2O! > >
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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Silver Ink
2012-01-20 by Donald H Locker
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