Well, there is not enough space between the drum and the Transfix Roller to pass a thick pcb. I would have to replace the cams that raise and lower the Transfix Roller with smaller ones to make it work. Coupled with all the other problems, I am not sure it is worth the effort. Mark At 05:48 PM 3/24/2011, you wrote: >A couple of people on the list have mentioned using Xerox solid ink >printers to make pcbs, so I thought I'd take a look. These machines >print by depositing melted wax on a large rotating aluminum drum then >rolling heated paper over the drum to transfer the image. This would >seem ideal because the wax is an excellent etch resist so that you >should be able to just print and etch. I bought a used Xerox Phaser >8400 for $100 on ebay. My preliminary thoughts/observations: > >1 - These are big, heavy machines, 65# (30Kg). They take up a lot of space. >2 - They take 20 minute or so to warm up and use (waste) a lot of ink >when they start up. >3 - There is an incredible amount of system and component checking >during the warm up period. >4 - There are a LOT of sensors, making it hard to force this machine >to do things it wasn't designed to do. > >That said, one simple way to use them is to print on thin pcb board. >I ran a piece of ss .009 mil board through and got an excellent print >right off the bat. I could simply glue this to a thicker piece of FR4 >and I would have a very simple method of making pcbs. I haven't >etched a board yet, but others have said this is no problem. Since I >don't have a lot of this thin pcb material, I don't want to etch >right now, but I'll let you know. > >After taking the paper path apart, I *think* I can straighten the >path enough to run .062 board through, but I'm not 100% sure. There >would certainly have to be a microprocessor to simulate a number of >the sensors because there are quite a few paper sensors. In fact, the >paper trays even have sensors that tell the printer how wide and how >long the paper is as well as when the tray is empty! Another problem >is that when the printer is first powered up it prints this very full >page that must come from tray 2. Since the paper stops for awhile in >the paper preheater before moving onward, the preheater (which has >both entrance and exit sensors) has to be emulated in software. > >Other problems are that every 50 pages the transfer roller is oiled, >and every time there is an error the printer prints 'Chase" pages to >clean off the drum. > >Finally, there is the problem of preheating the board. A .062 pcb >can fit through the preheater, but I have no idea whether it can heat >the copper fast enough for the wax ink to transfer properly. > >Lots of engineering challenges. I have put a data logger on the >relevant sensors and will now try to make the printer print with >emulated sensors. If that works, I can then see if full thickness >boards can pass. I'll let you know! > >Mark > > > >------------------------------------ > >Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Links, Files, and Photos: >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBsYahoo! Groups Links > > >
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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Phaser solid ink printers
2011-03-25 by Mark Lerman
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