Does it work any better if you hold at 175C for 5 minutes or so? The times I've had trouble with lead-free reflow is when I don't get the board up to temp on the soak. Most parts (Si especially) should be fine with a few minutes unpowered at 175C. (Most newer IGBTs even work at 250C though the packaging doesn't like it much). --Adam Shea. On 03/09/11 02:33, John Wilson wrote: > Hello there! This is probably a dumb question but I can't find anything in > the list archives (but then again maybe I'm searching for the wrong word). > > I'm trying to get the hang of reflow soldering of small 2-layer PCBs with > no solder mask, at Pb-free temps using a toaster oven. The problem I'm > having is that I can't get the solder to melt w/o scorching the boards. > I assume that means I'm being an idiot in some way, but come to think of > it, all of the examples I've found on the web showing how great toaster > oven reflow is seem to show boards *with* soldermask (which might protect > the board from heat somewhat and/or make the scorching hard to see) and/or > using Sn/Pb paste (which melts at a lower temp). So maybe what I'm trying > to do is unrealistic? I've done a whole series of the boards at different > max temps and the progression is obvious: > > Looks perfect = doesn't work. > Very faint suntan = doesn't work. > A bit scorched = works fine. > Cajun style (burned to a crisp) = works fine! > > So basically my question is: has anyone had good luck reflowing boards > at lead-free temperatures w/o soldermask? If so, was there anything tricky > about it? > > I've had decent success soldering these boards with a hot air pencil (set to > 325 C but I don't believe it) and a preheater. The only problem is shorts > underneath one of the components, so a lot of boards fail when I test them, > and I figure real reflowing is the answer. I sell these boards so they > have to be Pb-free, and I stuff them by hand so I've never bothered with > solder mask (just being careful has been good enough -- until this new rev > with the SMT 7-seg LED that gets the shorts). > > Details in case they matter: > - PCBs = from Advanced Circuits (regular FR4 laminate IIRC) > - paste = Ameritronics ZeroLead (96.5 Sn / 3 Ag / 0.5 Cu -- MP = 217-219 C) > - soak = 150 C to 217 C (max rate = 0.6 C per second) > - reflow temp = 230 C max (max rate = 1.6 C per second) > - oven = Black & Decker Infrawave driven by Arduino with SparkFun thermocouple > and MAX6675 chip and my own software -- yes I know that sounds fishy but > my cheapskate Harbor Freight IR thermometer agrees with the measured temps > and so (eventually) does a regular oven thermometer, so I'm fairly sure > the temps are accurate enough > > There's an article in QST (ham magazine) by someone who got excellent results > just running the toaster by hand (with a thermocouple-equipped multimeter). > So how stupid do I have to be to ruin piles of PCBs (and stink up my house) > with precise computer control? Lay it on me! > > Thanks, > > John Wilson > D Bit > > > ------------------------------------ > > Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Links, Files, and Photos: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBsYahoo! Groups Links > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Pb-free reflow scorches PCBs with no soldermask
2011-03-09 by Adam Shea
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