Don
Could you send me your private adress to <casy_ch at tbwil dot ch>. I have files for you.
Jean-Claude
----- Original Message -----
From: VK3YV
To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?
Hi Jean-Claude, that is a big help, now I need to know the DIP switch
settings, I will be using the parallel port, and hopefully be able to use it
with win xp, do you still have the dip switch settings?
Many thanks,
Don VK3YV........
----- Original Message -----
From: <casy_ch@...>
To: <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 12:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?
> Hi Don
>
> In the past I have had a DXY800 and later a DXY1150.
>
> All use HPGL (Hewlett Packard Graphic Language). Your programm should have
> a HPGL driver and will generate a <xx.PLT> file.
>
> If you go to:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HPGL
> you will find the language it is using.
>
> 73 de Jean-Claude, Switzerland
> HE9EZX
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: VK3YV
> To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 3:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?
>
>
>
> Hi, on seeing you are using a Roland Plotter for pcb drawing I have a
> query,
> I have a Roland DXY 800 for which I have no information i.e.. dip switch
> settings etc. that I would also like to use for PCB work. I have no
> information at all about it , I don't even know what language it talks.
> Can
> any one help, I have searched for hours but cant find anything regarding
> setup or language/ emulation .
> Regards,
> Don VK3YV.....
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "P COUNSELL" <pcounsell@...>
> To: <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 8:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?
>
> > Unfortunately athough I have some pens whuch were designed for pcbs
> they
> > are no longer availabe for rowland plotters. I do not see that as a big
> > problem . I intend to use EDDING 404 PEN TIPS with edding 404 refill
> ink
> > with a homemade holder. I will first try recharging my existing tips
> when
> > they run out with EDDING PERMANENT MARKER REFILL INK, I expect this to
> > work fine.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: P COUNSELL
> > To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 10:41 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?
> >
> >
> >
> > I modified my DXY880a very easily by using a piece of standard pcb
> board
> > so that the pen height was perfect for standard thickness pcbs.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: borgrailuk
> > To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 9:30 PM
> > Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Sounds interesting. How did you modify the plotter pen height and which
> > pens/ink did you use?
> >
> > I have a DXY1200 - not too keen to modify height but am planning on
> using
> > a slightly thinner pcb, which will fit.
> >
> > Stephen Freeman
> >
> > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "P COUNSELL" <pcounsell@...>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a very good dos program CADPAK and I use an old rowland
> DXY-880A
> > plotter. Results are fantastic . I modified the height of the plotter
> pen
> > to accomodate standard thickness PCB board. Only problem is it wont do
> > tracks fine enough for intertrack knecking , itis also very slow on
> > printing directly onto the copperlaminate but I have a cup of tea. Fine
> > for prototyping.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Bob Butcher
> > > To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 9:53 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have had a lot of trouble with toner transfer as well. My Brother
> > 1440 laser printer toner will not release reliably from any paper I
> have
> > found. I have heard the toner has a higher melting temperature than
> some
> > other printers, but am not sure what the problem is.
> > > I am not sure how you plan to modify the Artisan 50 inkjet printer to
> > directly print on the rigid PCB material. Another thing to consider,
> most
> > of the ink jet ink I have seen is water soluble, so the etchant will
> > dissolve the ink before it has a chance. I know there are ink jet
> printers
> > that are capable of using solvent based inks, but all the ones I have
> seen
> > are very expensive, in the several thousands of dollar range. You can
> buy
> > inexpensive "paint pens" from art and craft stores that might be useful
> if
> > you could find a flat bed printer that could be adapted to pens. I have
> on
> > old large format HP printer designed for CAD drafting that uses pens,
> but
> > the pen only moves on one axis, and the paper is fed back and forth by
> a
> > roller system for the other axis. The paper is wrapped around the
> rollers,
> > so it cannot be easily adapted to a rigid PCB. If someone had a flat
> bed
> > printer with a moving pen on two axes, that might work. Sounds like an
> old
> > school
> > > chart recorder might work, if you could find a working model that
> would
> > interface to a modern computer.
> > >
> > > Bob
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 7/21/10, gnuvvekaavaali <gnuvvekaavaali@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: gnuvvekaavaali <gnuvvekaavaali@...>
> > > Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?
> > > To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 12:22 AM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I am looking for suggestions on the choice of
> > >
> > > Inkjet (for direct inkjet printing) or laser
> > >
> > > printer (toner transfer) for the occasional single sided PCB.
> > >
> > > I don't see I will be needing very thin or dense tracks.
> > >
> > > My experience with toner transfer have not been too good. I
> > >
> > > used a Samsung Laser printer, and a hot clothes iron,
> > >
> > > with different types of paper.
> > >
> > > Best results have been with glossy magazine paper, but still
> > >
> > > had some improper transfers.
> > >
> > > The Epson Artisan 50 inkjet seems to be moddable for direct pcb
> > printing, and I can get that for cheap.
> > >
> > > Wondering if this is a easier and reliable way than toner transfer.
> > >
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Roland DXY 800/880
2010-08-02 by casy_ch@tbwil.ch