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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?

2010-08-02 by VK3YV

Hi Jean-Claude, that is a big help, now I need to know the DIP switch 
settings, I will be using the parallel port, and hopefully be able to use it 
with win xp, do you still have the dip switch settings?
Many thanks,
Don VK3YV........

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <casy_ch@...>
To: <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 12:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?


> Hi Don
>
> In the past I have had a DXY800 and later a DXY1150.
>
> All use HPGL (Hewlett Packard Graphic Language). Your programm should have 
> a HPGL driver and will generate a <xx.PLT> file.
>
> If you go to:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HPGL
> you will find the language it is using.
>
> 73 de Jean-Claude, Switzerland
> HE9EZX
>
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: VK3YV
>  To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 3:02 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?
>
>
>
>  Hi, on seeing you are using a Roland Plotter for pcb drawing I have a 
> query,
>  I have a Roland DXY 800 for which I have no information i.e.. dip switch
>  settings etc. that I would also like to use for PCB work. I have no
>  information at all about it , I don't even know what language it talks. 
> Can
>  any one help, I have searched for hours but cant find anything regarding
>  setup or language/ emulation .
>  Regards,
>  Don VK3YV.....
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: "P COUNSELL" <pcounsell@...>
>  To: <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com>
>  Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 8:54 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?
>
>  > Unfortunately athough I have some pens whuch were designed for pcbs 
> they
>  > are no longer availabe for rowland plotters. I do not see that as a big
>  > problem . I intend to use EDDING 404 PEN TIPS with edding 404 refill 
> ink
>  > with a homemade holder. I will first try recharging my existing tips 
> when
>  > they run out with EDDING PERMANENT MARKER REFILL INK, I expect this to
>  > work fine.
>  > ----- Original Message ----- 
>  > From: P COUNSELL
>  > To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
>  > Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 10:41 PM
>  > Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > I modified my DXY880a very easily by using a piece of standard pcb 
> board
>  > so that the pen height was perfect for standard thickness pcbs.
>  > ----- Original Message ----- 
>  > From: borgrailuk
>  > To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
>  > Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 9:30 PM
>  > Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?
>  >
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  > Sounds interesting. How did you modify the plotter pen height and which
>  > pens/ink did you use?
>  >
>  > I have a DXY1200 - not too keen to modify height but am planning on 
> using
>  > a slightly thinner pcb, which will fit.
>  >
>  > Stephen Freeman
>  >
>  > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "P COUNSELL" <pcounsell@...> 
> wrote:
>  > >
>  > > I have a very good dos program CADPAK and I use an old rowland 
> DXY-880A
>  > plotter. Results are fantastic . I modified the height of the plotter 
> pen
>  > to accomodate standard thickness PCB board. Only problem is it wont do
>  > tracks fine enough for intertrack knecking , itis also very slow on
>  > printing directly onto the copperlaminate but I have a cup of tea. Fine
>  > for prototyping.
>  > > ----- Original Message ----- 
>  > > From: Bob Butcher
>  > > To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
>  > > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 9:53 PM
>  > > Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > I have had a lot of trouble with toner transfer as well. My Brother
>  > 1440 laser printer toner will not release reliably from any paper I 
> have
>  > found. I have heard the toner has a higher melting temperature than 
> some
>  > other printers, but am not sure what the problem is.
>  > > I am not sure how you plan to modify the Artisan 50 inkjet printer to
>  > directly print on the rigid PCB material. Another thing to consider, 
> most
>  > of the ink jet ink I have seen is water soluble, so the etchant will
>  > dissolve the ink before it has a chance. I know there are ink jet 
> printers
>  > that are capable of using solvent based inks, but all the ones I have 
> seen
>  > are very expensive, in the several thousands of dollar range. You can 
> buy
>  > inexpensive "paint pens" from art and craft stores that might be useful 
> if
>  > you could find a flat bed printer that could be adapted to pens. I have 
> on
>  > old large format HP printer designed for CAD drafting that uses pens, 
> but
>  > the pen only moves on one axis, and the paper is fed back and forth by 
> a
>  > roller system for the other axis. The paper is wrapped around the 
> rollers,
>  > so it cannot be easily adapted to a rigid PCB. If someone had a flat 
> bed
>  > printer with a moving pen on two axes, that might work. Sounds like an 
> old
>  > school
>  > > chart recorder might work, if you could find a working model that 
> would
>  > interface to a modern computer.
>  > >
>  > > Bob
>  > >
>  > > --- On Wed, 7/21/10, gnuvvekaavaali <gnuvvekaavaali@...> wrote:
>  > >
>  > > From: gnuvvekaavaali <gnuvvekaavaali@...>
>  > > Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?
>  > > To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
>  > > Date: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 12:22 AM
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > I am looking for suggestions on the choice of
>  > >
>  > > Inkjet (for direct inkjet printing) or laser
>  > >
>  > > printer (toner transfer) for the occasional single sided PCB.
>  > >
>  > > I don't see I will be needing very thin or dense tracks.
>  > >
>  > > My experience with toner transfer have not been too good. I
>  > >
>  > > used a Samsung Laser printer, and a hot clothes iron,
>  > >
>  > > with different types of paper.
>  > >
>  > > Best results have been with glossy magazine paper, but still
>  > >
>  > > had some improper transfers.
>  > >
>  > > The Epson Artisan 50 inkjet seems to be moddable for direct pcb
>  > printing, and I can get that for cheap.
>  > >
>  > > Wondering if this is a easier and reliable way than toner transfer.
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