Homebrew PCBs

Hi Don

In the past I have had a DXY800 and later a DXY1150.

All use HPGL (Hewlett Packard Graphic Language). Your programm should have a HPGL driver and will generate a <xx.PLT> file.

If you go to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HPGL
you will find the language it is using.

73 de Jean-Claude, Switzerland
HE9EZX


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: VK3YV 
  To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 3:02 PM
  Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?


    
  Hi, on seeing you are using a Roland Plotter for pcb drawing I have a query, 
  I have a Roland DXY 800 for which I have no information i.e.. dip switch 
  settings etc. that I would also like to use for PCB work. I have no 
  information at all about it , I don't even know what language it talks. Can 
  any one help, I have searched for hours but cant find anything regarding 
  setup or language/ emulation .
  Regards,
  Don VK3YV.....

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "P COUNSELL" <pcounsell@...>
  To: <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com>
  Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 8:54 PM
  Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?

  > Unfortunately athough I have some pens whuch were designed for pcbs they 
  > are no longer availabe for rowland plotters. I do not see that as a big 
  > problem . I intend to use EDDING 404 PEN TIPS with edding 404 refill ink 
  > with a homemade holder. I will first try recharging my existing tips when 
  > they run out with EDDING PERMANENT MARKER REFILL INK, I expect this to 
  > work fine.
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: P COUNSELL
  > To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
  > Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 10:41 PM
  > Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?
  >
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  >
  > I modified my DXY880a very easily by using a piece of standard pcb board 
  > so that the pen height was perfect for standard thickness pcbs.
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: borgrailuk
  > To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
  > Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 9:30 PM
  > Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?
  >
  > Hi,
  >
  > Sounds interesting. How did you modify the plotter pen height and which 
  > pens/ink did you use?
  >
  > I have a DXY1200 - not too keen to modify height but am planning on using 
  > a slightly thinner pcb, which will fit.
  >
  > Stephen Freeman
  >
  > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "P COUNSELL" <pcounsell@...> wrote:
  > >
  > > I have a very good dos program CADPAK and I use an old rowland DXY-880A 
  > plotter. Results are fantastic . I modified the height of the plotter pen 
  > to accomodate standard thickness PCB board. Only problem is it wont do 
  > tracks fine enough for intertrack knecking , itis also very slow on 
  > printing directly onto the copperlaminate but I have a cup of tea. Fine 
  > for prototyping.
  > > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > > From: Bob Butcher
  > > To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
  > > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 9:53 PM
  > > Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > I have had a lot of trouble with toner transfer as well. My Brother 
  > 1440 laser printer toner will not release reliably from any paper I have 
  > found. I have heard the toner has a higher melting temperature than some 
  > other printers, but am not sure what the problem is.
  > > I am not sure how you plan to modify the Artisan 50 inkjet printer to 
  > directly print on the rigid PCB material. Another thing to consider, most 
  > of the ink jet ink I have seen is water soluble, so the etchant will 
  > dissolve the ink before it has a chance. I know there are ink jet printers 
  > that are capable of using solvent based inks, but all the ones I have seen 
  > are very expensive, in the several thousands of dollar range. You can buy 
  > inexpensive "paint pens" from art and craft stores that might be useful if 
  > you could find a flat bed printer that could be adapted to pens. I have on 
  > old large format HP printer designed for CAD drafting that uses pens, but 
  > the pen only moves on one axis, and the paper is fed back and forth by a 
  > roller system for the other axis. The paper is wrapped around the rollers, 
  > so it cannot be easily adapted to a rigid PCB. If someone had a flat bed 
  > printer with a moving pen on two axes, that might work. Sounds like an old 
  > school
  > > chart recorder might work, if you could find a working model that would 
  > interface to a modern computer.
  > >
  > > Bob
  > >
  > > --- On Wed, 7/21/10, gnuvvekaavaali <gnuvvekaavaali@...> wrote:
  > >
  > > From: gnuvvekaavaali <gnuvvekaavaali@...>
  > > Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Inkjet or Laser for PCB work?
  > > To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
  > > Date: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 12:22 AM
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > I am looking for suggestions on the choice of
  > >
  > > Inkjet (for direct inkjet printing) or laser
  > >
  > > printer (toner transfer) for the occasional single sided PCB.
  > >
  > > I don't see I will be needing very thin or dense tracks.
  > >
  > > My experience with toner transfer have not been too good. I
  > >
  > > used a Samsung Laser printer, and a hot clothes iron,
  > >
  > > with different types of paper.
  > >
  > > Best results have been with glossy magazine paper, but still
  > >
  > > had some improper transfers.
  > >
  > > The Epson Artisan 50 inkjet seems to be moddable for direct pcb 
  > printing, and I can get that for cheap.
  > >
  > > Wondering if this is a easier and reliable way than toner transfer.
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