Interesting. I run the laminator at 180C, and still need pre-heat. In fact, I was running it at 220C (until the rollers failed) and still needed pre-heat. I use OEM HP P1006 toner and Hammermill Laser Gloss paper. --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "James" <jamesrsweet@...> wrote: > > > > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "rlspell2000" <rls@> wrote: > > > > The board I did on the new hot plate, between the clothes iron and the hot plate, preheated for 3 min @ 160C worked good. > > > > Tried that on the next one, and got bad trace adherence and transfer. > > > > Paper is turning brown. When I overcooked and smoked the paper it turned real brown... > > > > Decreased temp to 150C and run a board. OK but not great. Still loosing traces. > > > > Decreased temp to 140C. Much better, very little browning, good "stickage" and transfer, even of the fine alignment lines. But still some traces didn't adhere. > > > > Got to thinking. Yeah, I know, a dangerous thing. I got really good results at 160C and 3 minutes, but only moderately good results at 150C and 140C for four minutes. Got to wondering if I was actually "cooking" the toner. Damaging the plastic with the heat. > > > > Broke out the tiny type-K probe that came with the multimeter and a stop watch. Soldered the probe tip to the edge of a board, and had someone call out 10 second intervals as I wrote down the temperatures. > > > > > > Heated between the good aluminum top hot plate and the clothes iron, both at 140C, the board reaches full temp in less than 60 seconds.... > > > > So any time I spend on the preheat, with my setup, beyond 1 minute is just overkill, and is probably baking the toner and making it non-sticky. > > > > > > I figure run it for like 90 seconds, give everything time to reach pre-heat temp, then run it through the laminator. > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > I never do any preheating. I just set the laminator to 160C which is as high as it goes and then run the board through a couple of times. perfect transfer every time. >
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Re: Board heat up time
2010-07-16 by rlspell2000
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