I'd also suggest trying a few more passes of the laminator - 2 does sound a little lean. And I don't know what tarn-X is but I do agree you want the board a little rough. And I do lose the edge of board trace pretty often - but I'm still using the iron PG On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Kerry Wentworth <kwentworth@... > wrote: > > > I usually clean the board with steel wool, then alcohol. I'd avoid > TarnX. You don't want the copper to be too smooth. I normally make 4 > or 6, or even 8 passes. I have noticed that, even with 1X3 or 2X2 > boards, the Ready light goes out sometimes when the board passes > through. Did you have the Temp switch in 5mm? I usually let the board > cool before soaking, but I use magazine paper. > > Properly applied toner can be scrubbed with a toothbrush and not come off. > > Kerry > > > jimofc300 wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Yesterday, I tried my first PCB. I used Pulsar's "Fab-in-a-Box" system > with their GBC "Personal" laminator. After following Pulsar's directions, > some traces just floated off after soaking to remove the backing paper. > First, parts of the board outline (5 mil) drifted away, followed by some of > the traces (10 mil) and pads. Can anyone here tell me what I did wrong and > how to fix it? > > > > In more detail, I printed their Toner Transfer Paper with a new HP 1005 > printer, using the HP demo catridge. I set the density to 5 (max) before > printing. The print looked ok. Could the HP demo cartridge be different > (cheaper maybe) than the regular HP cartridge? I let it sit around for maybe > 30 minutes before laminating, while cutting and cleaning the board. Could > that be it? > > > > I cleaned the board, by Pulsar's recommendation, with, first, a little > dish soap on a green "scrubby" then with Tarn-X using a paper towel pad, > rinsing thorougly after each. I wore latex gloves to avoid fingerprinting my > clean board. Could my problem be in cleaning the board? Is there a better > method? > > > > I ran the board and TTP through the laminator twice--forward and > backward, per instructions. One discrepancy is that I didn't have the water > bath immediately at hand and it took about a minute to get some water. Could > the board have cooled enough in one minute to cause my problem? Also, I left > it in the water several minutes rather than one. Is soaking too long a > troublemaker? > > > > I note that the worst of the problem was at the back end of the board > (relative to my first pass), though there was some toner floating off in the > middle, too. Does the laminator (which I let warm up over 30 min) lose its > heat so quickly that it doesn't do a 4" long board evenly? Would more passes > through the laminator help? > > > > Any other problems with my method that could cause this failure? > > > > Thanks, > > Jim > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Well, that didn't work
2010-02-08 by Piers Goodhew
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