wheedal99 wrote: > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Russell Shaw <rjshaw@i...> > wrote: >>Try doing a whole board. I've never got all the pads or tracks to >>stick, and i even made special heated press from 5/8" aluminium >> slabs to get even pressure and temperature control. The other problem is >>that the pressure can cause tracks to be flattened which makes them >>spread wider causing ragged edges and shorts. > I'm not sure what you mean by a "whole board". Almost everything I > do is under 6"x6". Anything larger, or more complicated I send out. > Ordering boards is fairly inexpensive these days so the only reason I > do some of them myself is to save time. What were you trying to do > that didn't work? I was trying to get the normal laser printer toner-transfer system to work for 'normal' 10cm x 10cm PCBs. I was using TTS paper that has a gelatine coating that dissolves in water. The proper fuser thing costs US$200 (~AUS$300 then plus postage overseas) so i made my own. I got a 2.4kW spiral stove element and fastened it to a 30cm x 40cm x 16mm slab of aluminium. I made a triac control with temperature feedback. I had a second slab with insulated handle that sits on top. I let the whole lot preheat before putting the pcb between. I tried varying temperature, pressure, and cleaning/degreasing the pcb in various ways, but i would always get a couple of pads or tracks falling off in the water. Pressing the pcb harder would make the toner stick better, but then there'd always be some tracks or pads that increased in area because the toner was flattened. Later, i tried just lasering onto transparencies, but you could easily say light thru the large black areas and the resolution was not sharp. Printers were HP laserjet-II and HP 4M+. I then experimented with canon, HP, and epson inkjets using genuine inks and transparencies. The epson stylus color was miles ahead because they had transparency that absorbs the ink into a flat surface. Large black areas have not a single pinhole and edges are sharp. The other printers had "sandpapery" rough transparency that relied on mechanical adhesion rather than chemical compatibility. They had rougher edges, pinholing, and took much longer to dry. From what i found, thermal heads seem to clog more than piezo heads, unless crappy refill ink is used (anecdotal evidence). IIRC, some printers like HP have the head built into the cartridge. Epson heads are part of the printer and the cartridge is only a container. It was ~5 years ago, and i haven't tried lexmark inkjets or newer lasers. Lasers are probably better now, and are worth using if you already have one and its resolution and contrast is *adequate*. There are many very cheap inkjets and lasers on ebay. One thing to beware of: with inkjets, after the ink is dried, it can still be outgassing a vapour that wrecks photoresist that doesn't have the plastic sheet layer. This happens with the epson transparency and PRP spray-on resist. To fix, put the printout in front of a fan heater for 10-15mins before using. It is very important to fully degrease the copper before spraying with PRP. Vinegar with lots of salt works well.
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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: the naked truth about Laser Jet, warts and all !
2003-07-06 by Russell Shaw
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