I'm guessing, drawing on high school and college chemistry. H2O2 + HCl + Cu -> 2H20 + CuCl Unreacted H2O2 and HCl remain in solution. HCl + NaOH -> NaCl + H2O You are very unlikely to produce H2O2 in the reaction with HCl and NaOH, IMO. My guess is that you have CuCl as the blue sludge. I suppose it could be CuOH, but you'd have to convince yourself that Cu would rather bond with OH. A smell of chlorine when you are reacting would be a clue, or bubbles and a yellow gas. pcb.easy wrote: > I design my own boards using positive acting pre-sensitized boards. > > My developer solution is made of 1/2 teaspoon Sodium Hydroxide in > 300ml water. > > My etch solution is made up of 1 part 31% Hydrochloric acid (HCl), > and 2 parts 3% Hydrogen Peroxide (H2O2). > > The above chemical solutions work very well for me, and are extremely > fast. I'm not looking to find a better way. I am looking to reduce > the waste that goes to the hazard waste facility. > > I'm not a chemist, didn't even take high school chemistry. Anyway > here is an experiment I did with the above chemicals, to try and > reduce the amount of waste. > > Safety first, wear chemical goggles, gloves, apron, and work in a > well ventilated area > > Hydrochloric acid (HCl) is very acidic, PH1. Sodium Hydroxide (NaOH) > is very alkaline, PH14. When you mix an acid with an alkaline and > adjust the solution to PH7 they become table salt and water. > HCl + NaOH = NaCl + H2O2 > > It takes a lot of Sodium Hydroxide to move from PH1 to PH2, but it > takes very little to move from PH6 to PH7. And if the solution is > very alkaline it takes a lot of Hydrochloric acid to move from PH14 > to PH13, and very little to move from PH8 to PH7. > > I mixed the spent etchant and developer together and started to > neutralize the mixture. At about PH6 what I believe to be copper > chloride started to precipitate out of solution. After the solution > had set for about 12 hours, a blue sludge had formed at the bottom of > the container and what I believe to be saltwater solution was at the > top. > > I siphoned off most of the water being careful not to disturb the > sludge. > > I tested the PH of the water that had been removed from the sludge > container and it is still approximately PH7, and is crystal clear. > > I have reduced the 3 liters of chemicals down to less than 250ml of > sludge. > > Am I on the right track? > Is the blue sludge copper hydroxide? > Can the sludge be reduced even more by drying? > If so how can it be safely dried? > Is there an issue storing copper hydroxide in powder form? > > > > > Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Links, Files, and Photos: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs > > If Files or Photos are running short of space, post them here: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs_Archives/ > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Disposing of Chemicals
2007-04-15 by Dale J. Chatham
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