On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:58:19 +0100, Dan Pickard <dlpwebmail@...> wrote: > Hello people, > I've been trying to use a flat bed plotter and "pens" to fabricate > PCBs for some time now. I've come to the conclusion that all ink pens > suck for this method. Even the best pen results fail right before the > etching is complete, they just don't have enough bonding strength in > acid. I love this PCB fabrication method, I just need a pen that will > work. I seem to have the best luck with red pens and I know that red dye > has the most solids in it. Anyway, In my frustration I decided to try > to build a high-resolution paint pen for the plotter. I had my wife > bring home some tuberculin syringes with a #25 and #28 needle on them. I > cut the needle at the base and polished it with my dremel. I then > mounted it in a Roland DXY1100 plotter and filled the syringe via an > extra syringe with screen printing ink thinned to right viscosity to > produce a drip every 30 seconds or so. This is just the right amount of > ink to produce very solid lines with nice heavy ink deposits without > blotting. I was getting at least a 0.025" resolution with #25 needle > and should be able to do better with a #28. As for the etching I just > put the PCB board in some Muratic acid - persulfate is very slow...., > Ferric is OK, and Muratic/peroxide mix is very very fast, almost > violent, and I like instant gratification ;-) I was etching in my shop > with a ambient of 16F last night so even Muratic etching was very slow. > This step was always the 'time of truth' for the pen methods. It always > resulted with the ink lifting off the copper just before the PCB was > finished etching. I left my new PCB in acid for 40 minutes and no ink > left the PCB with no surface degradation of ink also. This will be my > new preferred system from now on. I just want to share my results > because I'm sure others are trying the same method. > Thanks, Dan Hi, You can actually buy metal-tipped plotter pens. Even with carbide tips. They have a little spring-loaded wire sitting inside the thin tube. Some also have X shaped grooves on the end to aid in inkflow. I got them from ebay. I tried them with a plotter and staedtler red ink but it would not hold up. ST
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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Roland DXY1100 plotter and teburculin syringe pen
2007-01-11 by Stefan Trethan
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