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Re: (Wooden) CNC router plans

2006-12-24 by crankorgan

Chris,
      This guy and others have contacted me and said my designs were
great!

http://www.digirout.com/

       While people have waited for products from Ken Brand (Ballendo)
and others I made it happen. Earth Shattering no but to thousands who
have bought my plans and hundreds who have finished them I have made
their day. All my designs are cost driven. The Brute can be built for
under $125 using hand tools. It took years for other machines to show
up. Talk is cheap!

                                                   John     



--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "lcdpublishing"
<lcdpublishing@...> wrote:
>
> Hi John,
> 
> Gee, I suppose the first guy that painted a car red is the only 
> person with the rights to do so?  In your way of thinking, we would 
> have run out of colors a long time ago!  John, get over it.  Your 
> designs are not all that "earth shattering", the materials used are 
> crude at best, and there is nothing in your designs that is so 
> innovative that it makes people stand up and say "Gee, that just 
> brilliant!"  Seriously, you actually think you are the first person 
> to use aluminum extrusions for a guideway?  Good thing you don't 
> work at the patent office!
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@...m, "crankorgan" <john@> wrote:
> >
> > Chris,
> >       Three people copied the HobbyCNC board. All three went down 
> in
> > flames when Dave came out with the new board. It made my day! You 
> can
> > search every magazine in the world. I was the first to use the 
> window
> > channel. The scraps never made it into the hands of the public. You
> > remind me of the people who said swaping MP3s were going to help 
> the
> > record industry. I am in the process of looking for a job. There 
> won't
> > be any new designs (old ones according to you) coming from me in 
> the
> > future. I took a bunch of old ideas and made something new out of
> > them. In six years nobody has done anything as slick.
> > 
> >                                                 John 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "lcdpublishing"
> > <lcdpublishing@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi John,
> > > 
> > > I know you have been upset about this whole thing for some time 
> now. I 
> > > don't know what you expect of other people though. 
> Realistically, your 
> > > machine designs use crude, commonly available  materials. Just 
> because 
> > > you printed on paper the idea of using cheap window channel for 
> a 
> > > guideway does not give you sole rights to use that idea.  Nor 
> does the 
> > > use of extremely crude gas/water pipe for other machine 
> components.  
> > > Anyone can use any of those materials in anything they wish to, 
> > > including a CNC machine. 
> > > 
> > > If you look back through woodworking magazines for the last 20 
> years 
> > > or so, you will find numerous uses of the cheap aluminum 
> extrusions 
> > > for a variety of jigs and fixtures.  In many cases, it was used 
> as a 
> > > guideway.  Assuming those published drawings predate yours, then 
> in 
> > > essence you ripped off them of their idea.
> > > 
> > > Using gas pipe and or water pipe is another "hacked together" 
> framing 
> > > material used for innovative purposes long before you used it on 
> your 
> > > machine.  As it is easy to obtain, it has been used for many 
> other 
> > > purposes including as an axel for a turntable type device 
> published in 
> > > a woodworking magazine many years back.  It is used as a "hidden 
> shelf 
> > > hanger" device and I am sure many other unique applications.
> > > 
> > > I don't know if you expected the world to bow down to you for 
> all 
> > > machine designs using similar materials, but if so, you were not 
> being 
> > > realistic at all.  Sorry to sound so harsh, but you seem to want 
> to 
> > > claim rights to things that you have no right to claim.  If 
> someone is 
> > > photocopying your drawings and reselling them, call the 
> authorities as 
> > > you would have something to complain about.  But complaining 
> about 
> > > people showing similar uses of similar materials is just 
> unrealistic.
> > > 
> > > Chris
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "crankorgan" <john@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Stefan,
> > > >        Lets see him produce plans without the window channel. 
> The
> > > > window channel was my epiphany! He mounted the motor and 
> bearing
> > > > plates on the channel the same way! The Z axis Gas pipe etc. I 
> guess
> > > > if I stole your car and repainted it, that would be ok with 
> you? 
> > > > 
> > > >                                           John
> > >
> >
>

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