At 11:17 am (PDT) Tue Sep 12, 2006, Hector Garcia wrote: >I found the original source in english >http://www.qsl.net/iz7ath/web/02_brew/14_howto/02_clor/index.htm Again we have reference to this canard that seems to claim that Ferric Chloride in aqueous solution isn't acid. If the pH is around 7 (neutral) there will be so little Fe3+ ion in solution it will be literally almost drinking water. (Ferrous Hydroxide flocculation with FeCl is used to purify water for human consumption.) At an etching strength, the solution could be as low as pH 2, which is very acid. It gets that way either by having been acidulated by the addition of hydrochloric acid (the preferred course) or by the precipitation of ferrous hydroxide until equilibrium is found (and a lot of its etching potential is wasted as brown sludge). I get the impression that some of our members don't acidulate their ferric chloride bath... :-( I also get the impression that some people don't understand the word "regeneration" - it ought to imply a return to (or very close to) the original state. For example, this is what happens in photo-processing labs, where consistent chemistry is vital for consistent results. A developer bath is made up from a concentrate and then topped-up during use with a _different_ concentrate which attempts to compensate for both the exhaustion of the original developer and the contaminants introduced by the film that has been processed. A fixer is regenerated by the _removal_ of silver or silver salts and the addition of a top-up concentrate. Many people here write about "regenerating" FeCl by methods which make no attempt whatever to remove the accumulated copper. This is _not_ regeneration, though if it restores activity it might be called "reactivation". (I believe ST surmised that these treatments move the bath towards a combined FeCl - CuCl chemistry.) But if you are going to use CuCl etchant, why not go there directly and forgo the brown sludge? Similarly, if you are considering using HCl and H2O2 to reactivate your etchant, why not use them _as_ your etchant? It's quick, clean and one less chemical to store. Regards, LenW
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Re: Just a friendly reminder to plug your hoses!
2006-09-13 by Len Warner
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