Gee, that site really does a lot of good. The guy hates Americans and it is not posted in English. Doubt if I would trust sending "my" money there. -Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Markus Zingg" <m.zingg@...> To: <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 2:17 AM Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Stirring or pumping etchant > Hi Group > > This is my first time post here, so please forgive me in case this is > already known. However, there is a small german company selling very > low priced spray etchers which are not that bad. There is a model that > etches one side, and also one that etches two sides at once. However, > the single sided model can also be used for double sided PCB's by > simply turning the PCB once one side is etched. The signle sided one > goes for ~117 Euro (about the same in USD), the double sided one goes > for ~178 Euro. I have the single sided one and I'm pretty satisfied > with the results. The advantage of this etcher is that the device is > "always" ready, there is no mess with etchant since it's a closed box > and etching goes fairly quick also (3 minutes per side). The principle > is simple. There is a rotating tube that delves on the bottom of the > box into the etchant. Since the tube is having fine holes, the etchant > is forced out of these holes due to the rotational speed of the tube, > this results in a fine spray of etchant going over the PCB. Even > though the device is simple I would find it hard to build the same > device on my own for the same price. Let me stress that I'm not at all > related to this firm. I'm simply a happy user of one of their > products. > > Here's the link, search for "Spr\ufffdh\ufffdtzer". > > http://www.radixgmbh.de > > A word of warning though. The guy running this site aparently is > having a problem with the foreign politics of the US governement. Let > me stress that because of this I really thought twice to publish this > link here but then the etcher is simply too good to be ignored. > > Markus > > >Some ideas I haven't tried: > > > >Use a stainless steel stirrer such as is used for making milk shakes. > > > >Make some stirrer vanes out of suitable plastic, drive them with small DC > >motors (so you can adjust speed by adjusting the voltage). > > > >Make a centrifugal pump out of plastic. It doesn't have to be terribly > >efficient, just needs to direct a stream of etchant across the board to be > >etched. > > > >Use an oscillating room fan, or a windshield wiper mechanism to move the > >board around in the etchant solution. > > > >Chemical supply houses have a combination hotplate/stirrer. The stirrer > >works by having a rotating magnet underneath the beaker, and inside the > >beaker you put another magnet that is coated with some inert material. You > >might be able to use a "cow magnet" as the coated magnet. These are fed to > >cows to attract iron nails and stuff in the cow's digestive system and get > >them out of the system. (That's no bull :-) I just called a veterinary > >supply company and they sell a 2-inch coated cow magnet for $2.65.) > > > >You might not even need the cow magnet. Since the etchant is conductive, it > >will try to stay stationary with respect to any magnetic field. So, if you > >rotate a strong magnet adjacent to the tank, the solution may rotate in the > >same direction. This is the principle that makes induction motors work. > > > >Use a peristaltic pump, such as from scrapped medical equipment. > > > >Cheers, > >- Jan > > > > > > > > > >Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Bookmarks and files: > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs > > > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > >Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Bookmarks and files: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Stirring or pumping etchant
2003-04-26 by Mike Putnam
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