Fri May 26, 2006 3:48pm(PDT), Lez wrote: >...but what about home made inks with evaporative solvents, >...what about cellulose thinners, gasoline etc, with a wax, type 'pigment' > >Would not such a thing go through the really old hp500 heated bubble >type printers? I think the problem may be that it _will_, all too easily, unless you put a _lot_ of the resist medium (or something else) in it. Water is peculiar stuff, with a lot higher surface tension and boiling point than it ought to have in comparison with similar-sized organic molecules. Latent heat of evaporation for water is also anomalous, so the heater thermal cycle probably would be more extreme. So I think there is a fair chance that a wax in light petroleum solution will either drip through the nozzles or fail to be bubble-ejected with sufficient force, or possibly both. You might have to establish a very different working regime for the nozzles, requiring firmware changes. OTOH it might work - ISTR the old Kodak Diconix ink was of a rather 'oily' consistency, but (a) it probably was a glycol mix rather than a petroleum fraction, and (b) it didn't use quite such a fine nozzle. It might be possible to use a thin solvent-in-water emulsion to get the best of both worlds but stability can be a problem. Still, we have suspended pigments so why not emulsified oils? Wax+petroleum in water+glycol would be an interesting place to start. A surfactant or ultrasonic agitation would help dispersal and a colloid would help suspension but what colloid wouldn't contaminate the heater, I don't know. Please, no Hellmann's recipes from the goat fraternity :-) For the fire hazard, options include: i) _lots_ of ventilation (i.e. fume cupboard or open air - simplest); ii) _no_ ventilation (sealed enclosure), to work above the explosive range (difficult to be sure, esp. at start-up...); iiii) purge enclosure with inert gas (e.g. CO2, N2 or welding gas). (Using a water-based emulsion would greatly reduce the fire risk by reducing the proportion of inflammable solvent.) I would like it to work but, when I imagine of all you budding Edisons out there slaving away, I realize we are going to get a lot more work done through photoresist or TT before you discover your 2000 ways for it _not_ to work. Regards, LenW -- Please trim quotes to minimum for context, then reply _below_ or interleave point-by-point replies. Give your wisdom the presentation it deserves.
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Re: homemade ink
2006-05-27 by Len Warner
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