Homebrew PCBs

The R220 is a standard 8.5" injet printer with a CD
trqy on the bottom. My wife got one bundled with a
camera at christmas. Not very expensive.

Myc


--- lcdpublishing <lcdpublishing@...> wrote:

> Hi MYC,
> 
> I have not yet looked at a 220 printer from Epson so
> I have no idea 
> what it looks like.  How wide can it print?
> 
> The reason I ask is that I have one of those Fargo
> Signature series 
> CD printers.  It is design ONLY to work with CDs,
> and thus can only 
> print on an area as wide as the CD itself.  The
> length of printing I 
> am pretty sure could be modified, but not the wide. 
> 
> 
> Either way, the printer is worthless as I can't get
> updated drivers 
> for it to work on the newer operating systems :-(
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Mycroft2152
> <mycroft2152@...> 
> wrote:
> >
> > "Techno-Bqbble" is only useful after passing
> through a
> > Pragmatic filter. Usually there is nothing left.
> > 
> > Seriously, for direct to pcb printing to be
> practical,
> > it must use commonly availible components. Of
> course
> > there will be the the few that will go to
> extremes.
> > 
> > The MIS ink results have not yet been duplicated.
> > Anyone?
> > 
> > More postings have been concerned with converting
> > printers for flat bed printing and cleaning
> > printheads. This is re-inventing the wheel, CD
> > printers are now commonplace.
> > 
> > Based on the discussion to date, the simplest
> method
> > is to use an EPSON R220 CD printer with  MIS ink,
> > filled replacement cartridges.
> > 
> > Once the MIS Ink use is validated, then ~$50 will
> buy
> > the ink and cartidges.
> > 
> > Myc
> > 
> > Side posting alert!
> > 
> > L
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> > !
> > 
> > :
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- lcdpublishing <lcdpublishing@...> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi Len,
> > > 
> > > That was one of the best "Techno-Babble" posts
> on
> > > this subject yet!  
> > > It would appear as though you have a really good
> > > understanding of 
> > > the chemistry involved in this process that we
> are
> > > trying to achieve.
> > > 
> > > Based on your experience, what exactly do you
> think
> > > we should be 
> > > doing?  So far, the MIS inks seem to be "on top"
> as
> > > being capable of 
> > > resisting the etching as well as being able to
> be
> > > used in the 
> > > commonly available printers.
> > > 
> > > As for board prep, from first hand experience, I
> > > know that not all 
> > > PCB copper is the same.  I had some where toner
> > > transfer works 
> > > perfectly everytime, yet others where I can't
> get
> > > toner to stick to 
> > > it unless I pre-etch it.  
> > > 
> > > As most of us here are not chemists, nor do we
> play
> > > one on TV, all 
> > > we can do is experiment and try different
> things.  
> > > 
> > > As for the requirements of board prep and
> solvents
> > > in inks (being 
> > > water or otherwise) etc.  I came to my "hunches"
> > > above based on 
> > > something similar in experience.  We have all
> used
> > > Sharpie brand 
> > > markers as a resist.  I have used it on every
> type
> > > of PCB material I 
> > > have purchased. 
> > > 
> > > Oddly enough, I have never had to do ANY board
> prep
> > > work to get that 
> > > ink to adhere and work good.  I don't believe it
> is
> > > water based (or 
> > > uses water as a solvent) and being that black is
> the
> > > standard color, 
> > > it also makes pretty good sense that black ink
> > > should also work in 
> > > ink jet printing. Now if we could extract the
> > > Sharpie ink out of the 
> > > pen, AND get it to pass through an ink jet
> printer,
> > > we would have 
> > > our solution that works very reliably.  My hope
> is
> > > that the MIS inks 
> > > are similar enough in "chemsitry" that they will
> > > perform in an ink 
> > > jet printer as well as the sharpie pens :-)
> > > 
> > > Chris
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Len Warner
> > > <yahoo@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Wed, 19 Apr 2006 19:48, lcdpublishing wrote:
> > > > ><snip Tarn-X>
> > > > >I have a hunch there are two key elements to
> this
> > > whole ink-jet
> > > > >printing thing..
> > > > >
> > > > >1) The proper type of ink - solvent based as
> > > opposed to water 
> > > based
> > > > 
> > > > But water _is_ a solvent, and a darned good
> one at
> > > that :-)
> 
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