Hi Ted, I looked at the provided examples, and got the diameter/drill of the vias on it. .048 /.032 drill. seems to work. Sounds like GND@1 is working for you. A little confusing how they are placed/removed. Hard to get rid of them after you've placed them! Finally did ripup followed by ratsnest and DRC commands. I get a big X where the via was, and it finally goes away. But all are fine now after being replaced. DRC is good. What else should I play with after I pretty it up a bit? Alan KM6VV kilocycles wrote: > Alan, > I just tried the new part in place of the old one. Originally, when I > designed the symbol for it (it's an SBL-1 mixer), I just used the > standard "wagon wheel" for the symbol for it, the TUF-1, ADE-1 and a > homebrew version of the SBL-1. Then, I realized when doing the first > board, I had no convenient way to connect the external grounds and the > two IF pins together (doh!). I was trying to force wiring on the > board view, and I didn't care for that much. > > I redesigned a rectangular symbol with 4 pins on each side, and drew > the wagon wheel mixer symbol inside it at .0125" grid resolution, and > added the text to it. Then I switched back to .1" resolution to make > sure the pins would connect on the schematic. I renamed the pins fro > P$1 etc. to (in order, as the are one the actual device) RF, GND@1, > IF@1, IF@2, GND@2, GND@3, GND@4 and LO for pin #8. By the way, as > expected, the "@1" doesn't show up on the symbol. I set the pin to > display the nam on the symbol only, and it just shows RF GND IF IF > and then GND GND GND LO coming back up the other side. > > I just added them to the schematic of the product detector/audio > schematic I'm working on, and it looks good on the schematic and > board. I disconnected the grounds temporarily to test that "auto net" > thing with a supply. I added a +12V supply and connected it to a > transistor, and it didn't connect any of the grounds. Then, I > arbitrarily connected the +12V to the LO pin, and again, no > auto-ground connection. Maybe it will only do that if you have a part > with a voltage supply defining one of the pins, like maybe on a 7812 > regulator, or something. The regulators that are in the libraries > don't do that, however. > > I'm the wrong person to ask about vias. I just made my first ones, on > a board with some MMIC amplifier devices on the top ground plane side, > along with the PA transistor at the other end of the board. I *think* > I'm doing it right; it added a via pad to the board, and I'll connect > it through with a piece of wire. Click on DRC, and then read the > information regarding minimum drill for the Sizes and Restring tabs. > I don't completely understand it (it's Eagle!), but the Japanese > tutorial suggested setting Restring at 40%. I've had many situations > where I had DRC errors for drill size, but I just ignore them, since I > don't send the boards out for fabrication. I don't even print the > boards from the program, which could show the drill holes. I export > them to .bmp files and edit them in Photoshop, adding text, making > pilot holes, and use the "Threshold" control of Photoshop to ge a pure > black and white image for printing. It adds a considerable amount of > time to do it that way, but that's the way I've always done it. Until > I figured out the "polygon gnd" thing, I even added fills using > Photoshop. > > As to the specs, well, I pretty much ignore those as well. After I've > finished routing, I usually go back with the "Wrench" tool and > redefine the traces to a wider trace, typically .032", as long as it > still passes DRC. I have seen specs for digital and mixed analog > layouts on some sites, along with specs for signals crossing under > other signals. Obviously, signal trace widths and layer crossings are > extremely critical at VHF and UHF, where the foil traces are inductors > and capacitors. I haven't seen any guidelines for HF, but I try to > use common sense. I tie the top ground plane to the bottom foil layer > in several places, and I'm careful not to put a large trace across a > critical section where capacitance through the 1/16" thickness of a > board would be a problem. For example, for those GHz-capable MMIC > amplifiers mounted on the top layer, I left the foil side of the board > blank underneath them and their circuitry to hopefully preclude VHF > oscillations. > > When I get the other mixer device symbols corrected, I can send you a > copy of the small custom library they're in, if you want it. I also > have some toroids in there (bifilar and trifilar FT37-43, etc., and > the Mouser 42IF123 IF can transformer that is used in several QRP rig > designs. Also a board-mounted RCA jack that I found at a local > surplus house, to use for board-to-board connections with coax. > > Ted
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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Pins and Pads for external connections
2006-03-19 by Alan Marconett
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