Iwouldbe interested. Any information would be very welcome. Thanks, Les > A while ago I tested various inkjets and transparency films for fining what gave > the best quality phototmask. The Epson Stylus with epson ink and epson > transparencies gave the best results. The HP-deskjet with HP black ink on any > brand of transparency was not as dense due to millions of micro pinholes and has > a bit of ink splattering. I also tried about 4 different refill brands for Epson > and none gave the results as Epson ink. Calidad refill ink for epson was the > best and found to be completely suitable, the only difference I could see was a > slight reduction in darkness. The three other refill brands (no name brands) I > tried were either noticeably lighter, splattered ink or formed micro pinholes > when printing on Epson transparencies. > > The published DPI numbers of inkjet printers are meaningless for black and white > printing. I can't remember how they define dpi but I know its not pixel > resolution. From my tests, the Epson 720, 1440, and 2880 dpi modes all achieve a > fixed 720 x 720 true resolution. Higher horizontal resolutions are simulated > during photo printing by controlling drop size. The quantity of ink output for > 1440 and 2880 dpi mode is larger than 720 dpi mode. > The ink droplets land on the printing surface with a random direction causing > line edge jaggedness. Line edge jaggedness is the major factor effecting how > close tracks and spaces can be apart. > > I started to write a web page of all my results of testing inkjets and > phototmask. If people are still interest in creating phototmask from inkjet > printers I can finish writing it and put it online. > > Adam > > nf1z wrote: > > On a similar note, I recently used two different inkjet printers, an > > Epson 600 and an HP 625C, to print on decal paper. The similarity is > > that you want dense printing, as high resolution as possible, but the > > difference is that decals are usually in color. > > > > I found no discernible differnce between the two printers, and no > > discernible increase in quality beyond 720 dpi. Does this mean the > > 1440 resolution is just hype? Or maybe my software was not up to it. > > > > I was using the cheapest of aftermarket ink in the Epson, but real HP > > ink in the Deskjet - no discernible difference. The only > > disadvantage of the "clone" ink is that it tends to need cleaning of > > the jets more often. That's for color ink: for black, the clone ink > > isn't quite as dense, in my experience. > > > > BTW, I had to get more ink for the HP in a hurry, so paid full price > > for HP ink. Two cartridges for about $32 + $26 = $58 (plus tax). > > Epson is a little cheaper, but not much. I noticed that CompUsa is > > offering the HP Deskjet 3320 1200x600 dpi for $50, so I'm wondering > > why I didn't buy another printer, instead of the ink. To be honest, > > the $50 deskjet ships with a single ink cartridge, so you don't get > > true black without adding another cartridge ($22 additional). Still, > > and interesting situation for one who bought his first dot matrix > > printer when they came down below $500... > > > > Take it easy, > > Jed. > > > > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Russell <rjshaw@i...> wrote: > > > >>Les Newell wrote: > >> > >>>Hi all, > >>>Does anyone have a favourite make of inkjet film for printing > >> > > artwork? It > > > >>>looks to be expensive stuff so I would like to use a brand that > >> > > others have > > > >>>had success with. I am using a Lexmark Z25 printer if it makes any > >>>difference. > >> > >>I use epson over-head transparencies. They have a smooth coating > > > > that > > > >>absorbs the ink, eliminating all pin-holes. It costs more than the > > > > printer > > > >>($3 per sheet), but i can make 30 sheets last a year or more. > > > > First, print > > > >>the pcb onto paper in economy mode (to save ink). Cut out some > > > > transparency > > > >>and sticky-tape it over the paper printout area. Feed back into the > > > > printer > > > >>and print using the highest resolution black ink setting. The > > > > transparency > > > >>off-cuts can be used for other boards. Unfortunately, refill ink > > > > gives bad > > > >>results, so i have to use the genuine epson stuff. With this > > > > combination, > > > >>you can do ~5mil tracks at 720dpi. To minimize ink costs, i got two > > > > printers > > > >>the same (epson stylus colour 400 which are really cheap in the > > > > trading post). > > > >>One is only used for PCB printing using the expensive ink and the > > > > other does > > > >>the usual day-to-day printing using crap refill ink. > > > > > > > > > > Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Bookmarks and files: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Bookmarks and files: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Inkjet film - Inks
2003-01-09 by Les Newell
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