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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Post-Etch Topside Layout Labeling?

2005-12-08 by Stefan Trethan

On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 12:53:29 +0100, soffee83 <soffee83@...> wrote:

> Hey again Stefan and all,
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> I think I do have that same color and type of board as you in some
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> single sided stuff I was using. I've got some cheap single sided now
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> that's more weird looking, but seems to do quite well. It's a
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> totally opaque light beige, sort of a flesh tone, with a fairly tight
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> weave of whatever's in it.
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>
> I'm not sure if I'd try that iron rolling. I'd be afraid of trying to
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> get enough heat up through the board bottom to melt what was on the
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> paper a few layers away. I saw the acetone thing mentioned a few
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> times, but it could have been all for "toner to metal" transfers. I
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> also remember one thread with someone who couldn't get any acceptable
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> results from it and decided it was "toner dependant".
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>
>      -George (who still hasn't gotten his no-stick Reynolds wrap)


The really whitish board stuff is probably FR1, with only one layer of  
glass and phenolic paper in between. I've got some of this too.

I think our "not so transparent" but full glass material is G10 or XPC.  
Both have the usual 8 layers glass, XPC uses phenolic resin and G10 uses  
epoxy, but not the same as FR4. I don't think it matters much for homebrew  
projects, as i usually don't design for my boards to catch fire anyway ;-)

It should be possible to identify this via the logo in the middle layer,  
but i have not had any luck with that yet since it is red, which means  
FR4, but isn't FR4 at all....

Anyway, what i have found is that the real FR4 i have seems to take the  
toner badly, especially if you use single-sided stock and try to transfer  
on the smooth side.

ST

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